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1972年6月1日
我們可以看到總統專機 海軍直升機一號 Here comes the President's helicopter, Marine helicopter number one...
正降落到國會東側前廣場 landing in the Plaza on the east side of the east front of the Capitol.
直升機緩緩地靠近地面 Helicopter hovering gently, just off the ground.
時間真是算的太準了 總統繞了世界一圈 Amazing timing. The President flying all the way across the world...
飛越大西洋 而現在 across the Atlantic Ocean...
準時地在預定時間九點半 降落國會廣場 arriving almost exactly as scheduled at 9.30... in the Capitol Plaza...
總統剛好及時步上眾議院的臺階 so that he can go up the steps of the House of Representatives...
步入議會 將要對參眾兩院 go into the chamber, and address the members of the House and the Senate...
最高法院及華盛頓外交使節 發表演說 the Supreme Court, the diplomatic corps of Washington...
所有閣員都在眾議院 all of whom are inside waiting for him...
恭候總統到來 in the chamber of the House of Representatives.
美國總統 Mr. Speaker... the President of the United States.
總統在隨扈的陪同下 And the President, accompanied by the Escort Committee...
由中央走道步向演講臺 comes down the central aisle, approaching the podium...
向未來的閣員一一致意 greets members of his Cabinet and those who are waiting to be confirmed
同時緩緩步向講臺 as members of his Cabinet as he reaches the rostrum.
跟議長卡爾阿爾柏特握手致意 Shakes hands with the Speaker, Carl Albert....
總統面帶微笑 看來很開心 A happy President, smiling.
各位女士先生 尼克森總統即將要對 Ladies and gentlemen, President Nixon will, in a moment...
國會及全體美國國民發表演說 address the Congress and the people of the United States.
非常感謝大家 Thank you.
主演:達斯汀霍夫曼
主演:勞勃瑞福
片名:大陰謀
主演:杰克華登
特別客串:馬丁鮑薩姆
主演:哈爾霍爾布魯克
杰森羅巴斯 飾演班布雷迪
編劇:威廉高曼
制片:華特寇布蘭茲
導演:亞倫派庫拉
727號車 727號車 Car 727. Car 727.
水門辦公室的門敞開 大樓可能發生竊案了 Open door at the Watergate office building.
-看到警衛了 -確定要派我們去嗎 Possible burglary. See the security guard. Are you sure you want us?
517號比較接近 而且他們正在執勤 517 is closer and they're in uniform.
他們在加油 你們去吧 They're getting gas. You take it.
小組一號組呼叫二號 Unit 1 to Unit 2.
小組一號呼叫二號 Unit 1 to Unit 2.
-怎么了 -我們到了 -What? -We're home.
基地一號呼叫小組一號 Base 1 to Unit 1 .
我們偵測到一些不尋常的活動 We have some activity here.
請保持安靜 Silence is advised.
關掉 Shut it off.
聲音關閉
基地一號呼叫小組一號 Base 1 to Unit 1 .
八樓有燈光 Lights on the eighth floor.
基地一號呼叫小組一號 Base 1 to Unit 1 .
那里有人嗎 ls there anybody there?
陽臺上有人 他們有武器 There's people, people on the balcony. Armed people.
基地一號呼叫小組一號 Base 1 to Unit 1 .
我們有狀況了 We may have some problems.
有人在這里 Someone's here.
不準動 你這王八 -Hold it, you--
警察 -Police!
把手舉起來 Put your hands up!
把外套丟出來 Drop that jacket!
對講機 Walkie-talkie,
兩個35厘米的相機 two 35mm cameras.
知道了 很好 Got it. That's good.
好 待在那邊 All right, stay there.
我有好東西要給你 你看了這個沒 l already got something for you. Did you see this?
一對夫妻在睡夢中 有輛車突然 沖進他們的臥室 A couple sleeping in bed, car hits the house... goes through the bedroom,
-從另一邊沖出去 -好一個早安大撞擊 comes out the other side. Good morning. Crash.
路意斯在民主黨黨部 Lewis is over at Democratic headquarters.
其中一個竊賊搶了814元 One of the burglars had $814.
其他的各自搶了230 250 跟234元 One $230, one $215, and one $234.
大部分的錢都是百元鈔票 Most of it was in $100 bills
而且是連號的 and in sequence.
-伍華德 -是 -Woodward? -Yeah?
民主黨黨部發生竊案 警方已經逮捕到竊賊 There's been a break-in at the Democratic headquarters.
各地的民主黨黨部 There's been an arrest.
他們要在那里裝監視器 Local Democratic headquarters. They were bugging the place.
查好傳訊的時間 Check the time of arraignment, and get over there.
還有 伍華德 是全國民主黨黨部 And, Woodward, it was National Democratic headquarters.
好 All right.
-還有嗎 -還有嗎 -Anything else? -Anything else?
搶劫 車禍 以禮拜六的情況來說算是不錯 Break-in, car crash. That's not bad for a Saturday.
好吧 隨時跟我回報 Okay, let me know what happens. Hello, Carl.
哈? 卡爾 那對夫婦的狀況如何 Got anything on that couple?
我認識在水門的工作人員 我在想 Harry, l know somebody on the staff over at Watergate.
你先把第一個新聞處理好 再來煩惱第二個吧 Bernstein, why don't you finish one story before trying to get on another?
我已經寫完了 l finished it.
-維吉尼亞立法院的新聞 -我寫完啦 -The Virginia Legislature story? -l finished it.
-好 拿給我看 -我還在做最后修正 All right, give it to me. l'm just polishing it. l'll work the phones.
-我在打電話 -修正 Polishing it?
好 你負責打電話 Yeah, you work the phones.
-誰在乎 -所有權呢 Who cares?
嗯 抱歉 他們的律師? 不好意思 Who is the lower?Excuse me,
在水門辦公室被逮捕的五個人 他們的律師是誰 l'm sorry, who are the lawyers for the five men arrested at Watergate?
-你知道嗎 -這兩個是原本被指派的律師 Do you know? -Well, these two were assigned to it.
-抱歉 -這兩位是被指派幫他們辯護的律師 -l'm sorry? These two were appointed to the case.
結果那些竊賊 竟然有自己的辯護律師 But only now it turns out the burglars have their own counsel.
-竊賊請了辯護律師 -沒錯 -The burglars have their own counsel? -That's right.
你不覺得這有點怪嗎 That's kind of unusual, wouldn't you say?
以竊賊來說的確不太尋常 For burglars it's unusual.
-你知道那個律師的名字嗎 -不知道 感覺很紳士 -You know the name of the counsel? -l don't know. Some country-club type.
你是因為竊聽 嫖妓等等被起訴嗎 You are charged with soliciting prostitution... at 14th and east street.
然后你給了丹尼 And you get as your solicitor, one Perry Woodstock.
庭上 Your Honor,
我方已經承認 對這部分有責任 Mrs. Hawkin has in the past been a reliable, hardworking parent.
我想我們 Parents are sworn over. l think $300 would be acceptable....
不好意思 請問你的名字是 Excuse me, what is your name?
我是《華盛頓郵報》的記者 鮑伯伍華德 l'm Bob Woodward of the Washington Post.
-馬克漢 -馬克漢 -Markham. -Markham.
馬克漢先生 你是因為跟 Mr. Markham, are you here in connection with
水門竊案有關才出席的嗎 the Watergate burglary?
我沒有出席 l'm not here.
好 Okay.
我當然有出席 Well, clearly, l am here...
可是是以平民的身份 而不是律師的身份 but only as an individual, not as the attorney of record.
那么誰才是律師 Who is?
史塔基先生 Mr. Starkey.
-你有鞱 -不管你需要什么 -Do you have any---Whatever you want...
都得跟他拿 you'll have to get it from him.
我無可奉告了 l have nothing more to say.
史塔基鞱歷史的史 Starkey. S-T-....
史塔基先生提供了很多協助 Mr. Starkey was very helpful.
四個古巴裔美國人 還有一個叫做詹姆斯麥可德 Four Cuban Americans and another man, James W. McCord.
我在里面的時候就說過了 我無可奉告 Look, l told you inside, l have nothing more to say.
我了解 l understand that.
我不了解的是你怎么會在這里 What l don't understand is how you got here.
這當中哪有什么詭異之處 l assure you there's nothing very mysterious involved.
我之前跟一些 Well, a little while ago, l was talking to a couple of the lawyers...
-被指派去替竊賊辯護的律師談過鞱 -所以呢 assigned to represent the burglars. So?
他們不可能被派去幫竊賊辯護 They never would have been assigned to represent the burglars...
如果知道竊賊已經請了辯護律師 had anyone known the burglars had arranged for their own counsel.
可是竊賊不可能那樣做 Only, the burglars couldn't have arranged for their own counsel...
因為他們從沒打過一通電話找律師 since they never even made a phone call.
所以 如果沒人請你 你怎么會出現在這里呢 So, if no one asked you to be here, why are you here?
請不要在意 伍... l don't want you to take this personally, Mr....
-伍華德 -伍華德先生 -Woodward. -Woodward.
我被誤解了 lt'd be a mistake to do that.
我真的沒什么可以說的 l just don't have anything to say.
庭上 Your Honor
我建議 I suggest
有其他涉案者跟你聯絡嗎 Did one of the other men involved in the break-in call you?
為什么認為有其他人涉案呢 What reason do you have to assume that there were other people involved?
其中一位你的委托人 在被抓到的時候身上有對講機 Well, one of your clients was arrested with a walkie-talkie.
那些人不是我的委托人 They're not my clients.
我不想再談了 Now, l don't want to talk about this anymore.
你是一位律師 而你又出現在這里 You're a lawyer and you're here.
我跟其中一個被告 巴克先生 在一個社交場合碰過 One of the defendants, Mr. Barker, and l met at a social occasion once.
哪里 -Where?
-我無可奉告了 -在邁阿密的社交場合嗎 -l have nothing else to say. A Miami social occasion?
史塔基先生說 那些古巴人是從邁阿密來的 Mr. Starkey says the Cubans were from Miami.
第二位 詹姆斯麥可德 L-62, James McCord.
第三位 博納巴克 L-63, Bernard Barker.
第四位 維吉里歐岡薩雷斯 L-64, Virgil Gonzales.
第五位 尤金尼歐馬丁尼茲 L-65, Eugenio Martinez.
第六 法蘭克史都基斯 L-66, Frank Sturgis.
請上前 史塔基律師 Please step forward, Attorney Starkey.
還有被告偷竊的人 All charged with Burglary 2.
史塔基先生 你是這五位的辯護律師嗎 -Mr. Starkey, will you represent all five?
-是的 庭上 -這五位先生是被以 -Yes, Your Honor. And are all five gentlemen charged with burglary,
-二級竊盜罪起訴嗎 -是的 庭上 second degree? Yes, Your Honor.
請報上姓名及職業 Your names, please, and state your professions.
博納巴克 反共產主義者 Bernard Barker, anti-Communist.
反共產主義者 Anti-communist?
先生 這不是職業 That, sir, is not your average profession.
-詹姆斯麥可德 安全顧問 -哪里的安全顧問 James McCord, security consultant. Where?
政府 我剛退休 Government. Recently retired.
政府的哪個部門 -Where in the government?
中央情報局 -Central lntelligence Agency.
-哪里 -中情局 Where? The ClA.
法蘭克史都基斯 救難員 Sturgis, Frank A., salvage operator.
天啊 Holy shit!
尤金尼歐馬丁尼茲 又名基恩瓦德茲 Eugenio Martinez, known as Gene Valdez.
詹姆斯麥可德 別名愛德華馬丁 James W. McCord, alias Edward Martin.
法蘭克史都基 別名法蘭克費洛里尼 Frank Sturgis, alias Frank Fiorini.
這五個人都有至少一個別名 All five of them had at least one alias.
有什么證據證明 ls there any proof they were trying to
他們竊聽民主黨主席嗎 bug the National Democratic Chairman?
顯然他們是去竊聽歐布萊恩的消息 lt's obvious they were trying to bug O'Brien.
不會去竊聽那些秘書的啦 They wouldn't go to all that trouble to bug secretaries.
沒有 沒有證據 There's no proof.
我打了電話給一個在邁阿密的律師 Wait a minute. l called a lawyer in Miami l know.
他說被逮捕的四個邁阿密人 He said four of the guys who were arrested were from Miami...
-岡薩雷斯 馬丁尼茲 史都基跟鞱 -巴克 Gonzales, Martinez, Sturgis, and Barker.
對 巴克 這四個人都跟中情局有關系 Yeah, Barker. And all four of them were involved in ClA activities....
-你是說所有的鞱 -對 -No, they weren't. -Yeah.
不 其中有一個說自己是中情局干員 No, only one of them was admitted ClA,
中情局是不會承認的 and the ClA won't confirm that.
事實上 他們否認認識麥可德 ln fact, they deny even knowing McCord.
我想 Yeah, but l just think
以資金跟工具來看 it's obvious that with all that money and equipment...
他們應該不是單獨行動 而是受命而為的 they weren't out to work by themselves. Somebody hired them.
我對于顯而易見的事情沒興趣 l'm not interested in what you think is obvious.
我想知道你知道的部分 l'm interested in what you know.
他們為什么要竊聽民主黨黨部 What we don't know is why they wanted to bug Democratic Headquarters.
他們是為了自己這樣做 Whether they were working for themselves...
或者是為某人 某個組織工作 or other individuals or other organizations.
這有可能是個有趣的新聞題材 Could be a story,
也有可能只是一群發瘋的古巴人 or could just be crazy Cubans.
今晚過去的時候慢慢來 Bachinski, when you get there tonight, take it easy.
警察現在很緊張 The police are nervous.
這是巴金斯基從警察局總部打電話來 Yeah? Bachinski, calling from Police Headquarters.
我有朋友拿了他們在水門竊案現場 A friend just showed me what they found in the hotel rooms...
找到的東西給我看 of the Watergate burglars.
這當中有你會有興趣的東西 There's something here you might want to look into.
等等 Hang on. Okay,
-好了 繼續 -其中兩個竊賊的通訊簿中 go ahead. There's a strange
-有些奇怪的名字 -是什么 entry in two of the burglars'address books.
其中一個是 "HH在WH" -Yeah. -One says, 'H.H. at W.H. '
另外一個是 "霍華杭特在白宮" The other says, 'Howard Hunt, W. House. '
-你可以打電話到白宮嗎 -可以 You can dial the White House direct, can't you? Yeah.
-電話幾號 4561414. -What's the number? -456-1414.
-這里是白宮 -請接霍華杭特 -White House. -Howard Hunt, please.
杭特先生不在 Mr. Hunt isn't here just now.
他有可能在卡爾森先生的辦公室 He might be in Mr. Colson's office.
我幫你轉接過去 l'll connect you.
謝謝 Thank you.
-這里是查爾斯卡爾森的辦公室 -請找霍華杭特 -Charles Colson's office. -Howard Hunt, please.
杭特先生不在這里 -Mr. Hunt isn't here just now.
-知道他什么時候會回來嗎 -不知道 -Do you know when he'll be back? No, l don't.
-謝謝 -你打過穆倫公司嗎 Okay, thank you. -Have you tried the Mullen Firm?
你說什么 -l beg your pardon?
他也幫穆倫公關公司寫東西 He also works as a writer at Mullen & Company Public Relations.
-你有那里的聯絡電話或地址嗎 -沒有 抱歉 Do you have a phone on that or an address, please? No, l don't. l'm sorry.
沒關系 謝謝 All right, thank you.
哈利 Harry?
查爾斯卡爾森是誰 Who's Charles Colson?
坐下 Sit down.
我很高興你問我這個問題 You know, l'm glad you asked me that question.
我很高興你問我 如果問賽門或布雷迪 The reason l'm glad you asked me is because...
他們會說 if you had asked Simons or Bradlee, they would've said:
"我們得開除這個蠢蛋 "You know we're going to have to fire this schmuck
因為他實在是太白癡了" at once because he's so dumb! "
那到底查爾斯卡爾森是誰 Who is Charles Colson?
美國最有權力的人是尼克森總統 The most powerful man in the United States is President Nixon.
你有聽過他吧 You've heard of him?
查爾斯卡爾森是總統的特別顧問 Charles Colson is Special Counsel to the President.
他的墻上有一幅漫畫 There's a cartoon on his wall.
上面的標題寫著 當你抓到他們的蛋蛋 Caption reads, "When you've got them by the balls...
他們的心靈就會跟著你走 "their hearts and minds will follow."
-這里是穆倫公關公司 Mullen & Company.
-請找霍華杭特 請稍后 -Howard Hunt, please. -One moment, please.
我是霍華 Howard Hunt here.
嗨 我是《華盛頓郵報》記者 鮑伯伍華德 Hi, l'm Bob Woodward of the Washington Post.
請問有什么事嗎 Yes, what is it?
我想請問為什么你的名字跟電話 l was just kind of wondering why your name and phone number...
會出現在水門案嫌犯的聯絡簿中 were in the address books of two of the men arrested at Watergate?
天啊 Good God!
-請你說明一下好嗎 Do you care to comment?
-這件事情已進入司法程序 我無可奉告 ln view that the matter is under adjudication, l have no comment.
-哈? -我是《華盛頓郵報》的鮑伯伍華德 Hello? This is Bob Woodward of the Washington Post.
聽說你跟霍華杭特先生有合作關系 l was told that you had worked with a Mr. Howard Hunt.
為什么會有人那樣說 Why would anyone say that?
你認識杭特先生嗎 You do know Mr. Hunt?
不認識啊 我不知道怎么會有人那樣說 No, l don't believe so, and l can't imagine why anyone would say that.
很抱歉 我正準備要出門了 Listen, l'm really sorry, but l was on my way out. Goodbye.
-再見 -可以請你確認 Could we just confirm a couple....
再見 Bye.
-你剛是說《華盛頓郵報》嗎 -是的 -Did you say the Washington Post? -Yes, that's right, the Post.
你的公關公司被媒體報導 Your publishing firm was listed in
跟霍華杭特有關連 some papers in connection with a Howard Hunt.
是 他是我們的作家群之一 我想他寫過間諜小說 Yeah, he's one of our authors. He wrote spy novels, l think.
哪種間諜小說 是現代的還是? What type of spy novels were they? Were they modern, or were they period--
你說"寫過" 意思是他已經不幫你們寫了嗎 You say, "wrote"? You mean he's no longer with you anymore?
-對 現在沒有了 -你最后一次聽到他的消息是 No, not at this time. How long has it been since you've heard from him?
大概是幾年前了吧 A couple of years, l think.
可以告訴我他寫過的小說名稱嗎 Could you tell me some of the names of the novels that he has written?
哈? 請問保羅哈瑞拉先生在嗎 -Hello? ls this Mr. Paul Herrera? -Quin?
我是《華盛頓郵報》的鮑伯伍華德 This is Bob Woodward of the Washington Post.
我是《華盛頓郵報》的鮑伯 你會說英文嗎 Bob Woodward of the.... Do you speak English?
西班牙文 Momento, momento.
有沒有人會說英 Do any of you guys speak English?
有人會說西班牙文嗎 Do any of you guys speak Spanish?
先生 -Senor. -Si.
沒關系 謝謝 Never mind. Thank you.
謝謝 沒關系 Thank you. Never mind.
-哈? -請問是班奈特先生嗎 -Hello. -Mr. Bennett?
-是的 -我是《華盛頓郵報》的鮑伯伍華德 -Yes. -This is Bob Woodward of the Washington Post.
抱歉打擾你 Sorry to bother you at home.
我只是想跟你確認 l was wondering if you could confirm some information...
你的員工霍華杭特的一些資料 on one of your employees, Mr. Howard Hunt?
-什么樣的資料 -只是一些基本資料 What kind of information? lt's just profile information mostly.
我們知道他是穆倫公關公司作家 We know, for example, that he works for Mullen & Company...
或是曾經在那里做過 or did work for Mullen & Company as a writer.
他也是個小說家 He's also a novelist.
我們知道他在白宮的 We know that he works in the office of
查爾斯先生辦公室做事 Mr. Charles Colson at the White House.
還有中情局 And the ClA.
如果你在做相關調查的話 lf you're conducting that kind of investigation...
應該不難發現霍華是中情局一員 then certainly it comes as no surprise to you that Howard was with the ClA.
是的 這在我們的預料中 No, no surprise at all.
杭特在中情局工作到1970年 Hunt worked for the ClA till 1970.
從49年到70年 From '49 to '70. Now, this is on deep background...
聯邦調查局認為他跟水門案有關 but the FBl thinks he's involved with the break-in.
你還得到哪些情報 What else you got?
根據白宮的工作人員表示 According to White House personnel...
他曾經擔任卡爾森的顧問 Hunt definitely worked there as a consultant for Colson.
查爾斯卡爾森 總統的特別顧問 That's Charles Colson, the President's Special Counsel.
你打電話到白宮辦公室 Did you call the White House Press Office?
我直接過去問他們 l went over there. l talked to them.
他們說杭特已經離職三個月了 They said Hunt hadn't worked there for three months.
然后一個公關人員對我說了奇怪的話 Then a PR guy said this weird thing to me.
他說我相信卡爾森先生 He said, "l'm convinced that neither Mr. Colson..."
還有白宮的工作人員 nor anyone at the White House...
都不知道 也不可能參與 "had any knowledge of or participation in...
民主黨全國代表大會 "this deplorable incident at the Democratic National Committee."
這不就是你希望他們說的嗎 -lsn't that what you'd expect them to say?
-沒錯 -所以呢 -Absolutely. So?
我沒有跟他們提起水門案的事情 l never asked about Watergate.
我只是問杭特在白宮做什么 l simply asked what were Hunt's duties at the White House.
我沒有問他是否有罪 他們就主動馬上幫他撇清 They volunteered he was innocent when nobody asked if he was guilty.
寫得時候謹慎一點 Be careful how you write it.
現在連白宮人員也涉入竊聽案 Looks like we've got a White House consultant linked to the bugging.
哈利 這不是單純的社會新聞 Harry, this isn't a police story anymore.
這可是全國性的大新聞 This is national.
-我們需要請優秀的政治作家 -他們不想要 We need a top political writer on it. Well, they don't want it.
他們現在全都忙著報道初選的事情 They're all over the goddamned map covering the Primaries.
再說 這家伙也很努力 Besides, this guy has busted his ass.
他才進報社九個月 He's been on this paper for only nine months.
-你是怎么搞的 -他有沖勁 -What's the matter with you? -He's a humper!
他都在寫什么新聞 都是無聊的餐廳消息 What's he been writing about, rat shit in restaurants?
他一點經驗都沒有 He's got no experience.
他完成了一些采訪 不是嗎 He got a few of them closed, didn't he?
都是不重要的事件 又是政府官方說明 Minor incidents. Small government agencies.
請莫非特先生進來 順便問一下布雷迪有沒有空 Have Mr. Moffitt come in here, please. And see if Mr. Bradlee's free.
我要給班聽聽這個 l want Ben to hear this.
整件事已經有了進展 Sure Moffitt'll want the story for the National desk...
莫非特想把新聞交給全國版處理 now that we've built it into something.
就連伯恩斯坦也很努力 Even Bernstein's busting his ass!
我看了他那可笑的 l read that cockamamie memorandum he wrote on the break-in.
-竊案筆記 -好吧 是有一些廢話 All right, so some of it was bullshit.
你是怎么搞的 What is the matter with you?
你自己說上個月就要開除他的 You told me yourself you were going to fire him last month.
他非常想要挖到這條新聞 Look, he wants on the story bad.
他們兩個都是 They both do!
他認識很多人 He knows a lot of people.
霍華 他們很饑渴 Howard, they're hungry!
記得你以前饑渴的感受嗎 You remember when you were hungry?
能不能給我...... Hello. Can you get me Nigel....
在這里 Right away.
-一切都還好嗎 -正在修改 -How's it going? -What are you doing? -Polishing it a little.
-你在干嘛 -修改文章 -What? -Polishing it.
-有哪里不對嗎 -沒有 寫得很好 -What's wrong with it? Nothing. Nothing. lt's good.
-那你在干嘛 -我只是想幫忙 有些地方不太清楚 Then what are you doing with it? l'm just helping. lt's a little fuzzy.
可以給我嗎 May l have it?
你寫得跟你想表達的不一樣 l don't think you're saying what you mean.
我很清楚自己要傳達的意思是什么 這里就很不清楚 l know exactly what l mean.
我無法分辨是杭特幫卡爾森工作 Not here, l can't tell from this whether...
還是卡爾森幫杭特工作 Hunt works for Colson or Colson works for Hunt.
可以給我嗎 還我 May l have it, please?
可以 我可不想跟你吵架 Some of the conclusions---May l have it? -Yes. l'm not looking for a fight.
我也不打算跟你吵架 l'm not looking for a fight, either.
我只是了解到你才到報社九個月 l'm just aware of the fact that you've only been here nine months.
那又怎么樣 What's that got to do with anything?
我可是從十六歲就開始當記者了 l've been in the business since l'm 16.
你到底想說什么 What are you saying?
我是想告訴你 如果你看了我的文章再比較你的 l'm trying to tell you that if you'd read mine and then read yours....
-那我可以看你的文章嗎 -可以啊 -May l read yours? -Yeah.
我剛好經過看到你的文章 l walked by, gave yours a glance,
有些不夠好 所以我做了修改 it didn't look right... so l just figured l'd refine it a little.
第一段要寫得更清楚一些 The first paragraph has to have more clarity...
讓讀者馬上了解重點 if the reader's going to understand it.
你不應該在第三段提到卡爾森的事 You don't mention Colson's name till the third paragraph.
我想我寫得比較好 l think mine's better. But you go ahead and read it.
如果你覺得你寫得比較好 那我們就把你的交給編輯部 lf you think yours is better, we'll give yours to the desk.
我把卡爾森的名字放在最前面 l've got Colson's name up front.
他是白宮的顧問 可是沒有人知道 He's a White House consultant and nobody knows it. You're right.
你寫得比較好 Yours is better.
如果你要寫得話 就要盡全力 這是我做的筆記 lf you're going to do it, do it right. Here are my notes.
如果你要瞎掰 也要根據事實瞎掰 lf you're going to hype it, hype it with the facts.
我對你寫什么沒意見 我介意的是你報導的方式 l don't mind what you did. l mind the way you did it.
伍華德 伯恩斯坦 Woodward. Bernstein.
你們兩個要一起負責這個新聞 別搞砸了 You're both on the story. Now don't fuck it up.
嘿 史都本 那個 Steuben, what's the name of that girl that you bombed out with...
-幫卡爾森工作的女孩叫什么 -雪倫里昂斯 -that works in Colson's office? -Sharon Lyle.
-為什么那樣看著我 -你很有魅力 -Why are you looking at me like that? -You're attractive.
天啊 Jurst
你很有魅力 You are very attractive.
我的女朋友警告我要小心你 You know, my girlfriend told me to watch out for you.
-誰 -我不會透露名字的 -Who? -l'm not giving any names.
史都本說你曾經幫卡爾森做過事 Steuben said you worked for Colson.
史都本發神經啦 我從沒替卡爾森做過事 Steuben's crazy. l never worked for Colson.
-他是那樣說的 -我是幫一個助理做事 That's what he said.
而且卡爾森做事一向保密到家 l worked for an assistant. Colson was really big on secrets, anyway.
就算我替他做事 Even if l had worked for him,
也不可能會知道什么內幕的 l wouldn't know anything!
你認識霍華杭特嗎 Did you know Howard Hunt?
-你們共事過對吧 -對 我認識霍華 Didn't he work in the office? Yeah, l knew Howard.
-好 -他是個好人 -Nice? -He's a nice person.
他很神秘 非常神秘 He's secretive, he is secretive,
不過是個好人 but a decent man.
你知道他的工作是什么嗎 Do you have any idea what he did?
白宮說他負責調查的工作 The White House said he was doing some investigative work.
那你怎么說 What do you say?
-他做的是調查工作 -比如說 -He was doing investigative work. -On what?
-不同的事情 -舉個例嘛 -Different things. -Like what?
-她警告過我 -我不會把本子拿出來的 She warned me.
-我只是問你而已 -嗯 l'm not going to take my book out. l'm just asking you.
謠傳他在調查肯尼迪的事 The scuttlebutt for a while was that he was investigating Kennedy.
為什么 Go on.
白宮對于泰迪肯尼迪的事情很敏感 The White House was real paranoid about Teddy Kennedy.
我記得在他桌上看到 關于查別奎迪克的書 l remember seeing a book about Chappaquiddick on his desk.
他常常去白宮圖書館借資料 And he was always getting material out of the White House Library...
還有國會圖書館之類的地方 and the Library of Congress, and anything he could find.
白宮圖書館 White House Library.
嗨 我是《華盛頓郵報》的 卡爾伯恩斯坦 Hi, this is Carl Bernstein of the Washington Post...
請問你記得霍華杭特借過哪些書 and l was just wondering if you can remember...
是跟肯尼迪議員有關的嗎 any books that a Howard Hunt checked out on Senator Kennedy?
-霍華杭特 -是的 -Howard Hunt? -Yes, ma'am.
是的 我想我記得 Yes, l think l do remember.
他借了一堆資料 He took out a whole lot of material.
-你等一下 讓我幫你查好嗎 -當然好 謝謝你 -Why don't you hold on and l'll see? -l sure will. Thank you very much.
-伯恩斯坦先生 -是 -Mr. Bernstein? -Yes, ma'am?
-我記錯了 -什么 -l was wrong. -l beg your pardon?
我找不到杭特先生借書的記錄 The truth is, l don't have a card that says Mr. Hunt took any material.
我不記得借資料給 l don't remember getting material for....
我記得有人借了那些資料 可是不是杭特先生 l do remember getting material for somebody, but it wasn't for Mr. Hunt.
好 All right.
事實上 杭特先生 從來沒有來借過資料 The truth is, l didn't have any requests at all from Mr. Hunt.
事實上 我不認識什么杭特先生 The truth is, l don't know any Mr. Hunt.
你那里有沒有書是關于 l was just wondering if you have any books....
哈? Hello?
是 我們正在查資料 Yes, we're checking that information now.
我們想知道杭特在 We'd just like to find out just what it was that Hunt did...
擔任白宮五角大廈案顧問時 到底做了哪些事 when he worked out as a White House consultant on the Pentagon Papers.
是 還要請你多幫忙 是的 謝謝你 Yes, l'd appreciate that, if you could. Yes, sir. Thank you.
剛跟白宮圖書館員通完電話 l just got off the phone with the White House librarian.
你想看一下我的筆記嗎 You want to look at the notes on it?
喔 這些是艾森豪在 This is some stuff from the Eisenhower campaign in 1952...
1952年選舉時 跟杭特有關的部分 that Hunt was connected with.
你打電話給白宮通訊辦公室 Did you call the White House Communications Office?
沒有 我剛打電話給圖書館員 No, l just got off the phone with the librarian.
-524743鞱 -我知道號碼 -524-743. -l know the number.
第一句跟第二句中間 Between the first and second quote there's a complete contradiction.
有大概五秒鐘的停頓 lt's a space of about five seconds.
-我有鞱 -這就是全部的? -My feeling is---Was this all.... Mr. Clawson's office.
這里是克拉森先生的辦公室 This is Bob Woodward of
我是《華盛頓郵報》的鮑伯伍華德 the Washington Post.
-請問克拉森先生在嗎 -請稍后 -Could l talk to Mr. Clawson, please? -One moment, please.
謝謝 Thank you.
-當她回來接電話的時候鞱 -我是肯克拉森 When she came back she said she didn't even know--
克拉森 我是鮑伯伍華德 -Ken Clawson. -Mr. Clawson, this is Bob Woodward.
《華盛頓郵報》的卡爾伯恩斯坦問過 Carl Bernstein of the Washington Post had a conversation...
白宮的圖書館員有關霍華杭特 with a White House librarian...
借了艾德華肯尼迪相關書籍的 on some books a Mr. Howard Hunt took out on Senator Edward Kennedy.
她本來說他有借肯尼迪議員的書 She first said that Howard Hunt had taken out books on Senator Kennedy...
可是后來又否認她認識他 and then she denied even knowing who he was.
你對她前后矛盾的態度有什么看法 l was wondering if you'd like to comment on this confusion.
我會再回電給你 Listen, let me call you back on this matter.
-我會幫你查這件事的 -好 謝謝 再見 -l'm going to check on it for you. -All right, thank you. Bye.
卡爾伯恩斯坦 這是同一次的對話嗎 -Call back? -Yes. -This was all one conversation? -Yeah.
對 她本來說 "我想杭特借了好幾本書" She says first of all, "l think l got a bunch of books on Hunt."
結果五秒鐘之后卻跟我說 She comes back five seconds later, she says,
"我不認識什么杭特先生" "l don't even know a Mr. Hunt."
-一定是有人鞱 -我們沒有足夠的證據 lt's obvious someone got to her.
如果我們能找到證明杭特有借 Not enough proof. l mean, if there was just a piece of paper...
肯尼迪跟查別奎迪克 相關書籍的證據就好了 that said that Hunt was taking out books on Kennedy and Chappaquiddick.
圖書館的借書單 Like a.... l don't know, library slip.
杭特也去國會圖書館借了書 Hunt also took out books from the Library of Congress...
不過更重要的是一定有人在那五秒鐘 but what's more important is
對她說了些什么 that somebody got to her in that space of time.
-你怎么知道 -因為她說杭特 -How do you know somebody go to her? -Because she said that Hunt....
借了很多書 There was a lot of books that Hunt checked out.
結果后來卻說她不認識他 And then she comes back and she don't even know him.
-伍華德 -伍華德先生 肯克拉森先生回電 -Woodward. -Mr. Woodward, Ken Clawson calling back.
-我剛跟圖書館員談過 -是的 -l've just talked with the librarian. -Yes, sir.
她否認有跟伯恩斯坦先生通過電話 She denies that the conversation with Mr. Bernstein ever took place.
-她把電話轉給鞱 -抱歉 不好意思 先生 She said she referred him to the Press Office.
你說她否認 Excuse me, l'm sorry, you say she denies even knowing...
有跟他說過話 about the conversation taking place?
沒錯 她說的確有人打電話給她 That's right. She said someone did call her asking about Mr. Hunt...
詢問有關杭特先生的事情 可是她把電話轉給 but all she did was refer him to the Press Office...
新聞辦公室 她否認跟他有過任何談話 and she denies that...
胡說八道 -any other conversation took place. -Total bullshit.
-希望這對你有幫助 -謝謝 -l hope that's been of some help to you. -Thank you.
-我們得找到實際的證據 -國會圖書館 -We've got to get something on paper. -The Library of Congress.
夢娜 Mona?
不好意思 夢娜 能請你幫我接電話嗎 Excuse me, Mona, could you take any calls for me, please?
-好 -記在我的本子里 -Sure. -Here's my note.
如果有人打電話找我的話 lf l get any calls....
-你會回來嗎 -我不知道 -Will you be back later? -l don't know when.
你們需要所有白宮借出的資料 You want all the material requested by the White House?
所有白宮的借還資料都是不公開的 All White House transactions are confidential.
謝謝你們 Thank you very much, gentlemen.
-我們需要派個能博取同情的人 -這里是找不到的 -We need a sympathetic face. -We're not going to find one here.
你們要從什么時候開始的記錄 You want every request since when?
-是從什么時候開始的 -1971年七月 -When did he start? -July of '71 .
我想是去年一整年 l imagine the whole last year.
我不確定你是不是要 不過我有 l'm not sure you want them, but l've got them.
我想他們把借書單抽出來了 Maybe they pulled the cards.
搞不好他們把名字換了 Maybe they changed the names.
就算單子在 我們也沒找到 There might have been a card there, and we missed it.
等等 Hey, wait a minute.
我會跟白宮人員見面 l met a White House aide once at a social occasion.
就這樣 -So?
他搞不好會跟我確認 -He might confirm.
-你是說白宮的 -我不是秘書 我不這么覺得 -Do we need W.H. in White House? -Not in the second paragraph.
白宮就夠了 l don't think we do. Do we? -White House will be enough.
可以利用白宮找到那些借書的人 White House. -Just use White House. Forget the W.H.
不 鮑伯 我要知道他在白宮的工作是什么 l want to know about Colson. What was his job at the White House?
-總統的特別顧問 -我不說不行 -Special consultant to the President. -l gotta say it.
這些白宮圖書館員的紀錄是正確的嗎 These notes on the White House librarian, are they accurate?
白宮圖書館員知道他們在干嘛嗎 The White House librarian, the notes, are they accurate?
-嗯 可是我要重啟新頁 -可是我有卡爾森的報告 Yeah, but l wanna hear him say it.
-好 拿來吧 -在這里 班 -Okay, let's have it. -Here you are, Ben.
這是非常優秀的一篇新聞報導 lt's a good, solid piece of American journalism...
是《紐約時報》沒有的東西 that the New York Times doesn't have.
這還不夠 You haven't got it.
圖書館員跟一個秘書說 A librarian and a secretary saying
杭特看過一本書 這還不夠 Hunt looked at a book. That's not good enough.
白宮助理告訴我 杭特在調查肯尼迪的事情 A White House aide told me that Hunt was investigating Kennedy.
-是誰 -是誰 Who was it? Who was it?
你想要明確的名字 You want the name, you mean?
不 是他多資深 層級多高 No, how senior, how high up?
我不知道頭銜 l don't know titles.
"展現高度興趣" "Showed a special interest."
我們可以說白宮 No, we said the White House was investigating Kennedy.
-在調查肯尼迪 -"展現高度興趣鞱" "Showed a special interest in him."
新聞內容應該更強而有力 我們訪問到白宮圖書館員 Jesus, the story's stronger than that.
對方說杭特借了相關書籍 The White House librarian says Hunt checked out a lot of books.
卡爾森的秘書說杭特坐在桌前 We got a secretary in Colson's office said Hunt was sitting....
-好了 卡爾 -班 這是頭版新聞 All right, Carl. Ben, that's a Page 1 story.
找個空位插進去 Stick it inside someplace.
這篇報導非常重要 This is a goddamn important story.
下次找點更有力的資料吧 Get some harder information next time.
混蛋 Asshole.
-他站在肯尼迪那一邊 -他沒有 Bradlee's just sticking up for the Kennedys.We didn't have it, that's all.
-混蛋 我們拿到資訊了 -不 我們沒有 -Bullshit. We had it cold.-No, we didn't.
-你為什么不說鞱 -你覺得那個混蛋會 -Why didn't you say something? Do you think bitching about
把報導放在我們想要的地方嗎 it is going to get the story where we want it?
丟到垃圾桶去 Throw it in the can.
-喂 -我是伍華德 -Yes? -This is Woodward.
我想跟你談談水門案 我知道 l want to talk about Watergate. l know--
我不會跟你談這個話題 We're not going to talk about that subject.
-你跟我說過華勒斯的事 -可是這次不一樣 -We talked about Wallace. -But this is different.
那次是跟刺殺總統候選人有關 That was about the shooting of a man running for President.
-這次情況不同 -哪里不同 -This is different. -How?
這跟新聞內容無關 不要再打電話給我了 Not about this story. Don't call me again.
麥高文提名伊高頓 為競選伙伴
斷言尼克森是問題來源
稍早 沒有帶113的乘客 在費城被釋放
冰島的情況越來越嚴重鞱
巴比費區喪失第二場比賽資格鞱
跟兩百五十萬的 世界西洋棋冠軍賽說再見
跟俄國的冠軍伯里斯馬修的比賽
他沒有出現
費區在昨晚的公開賽當中 敗給馬修鞱
他在比賽當中離開現場三十分鐘鞱
走向電視攝影機鞱
后來他退出比賽
在華爾街方面 股價昨日重跌鞱
道瓊工業指數無預警重挫 六又四分之三個百分點
美元因歐洲貨幣市場重跌 而受到影響鞱
不要再寫信或打電話給我
如果你一定要找我 就在陽臺花瓶里插上紅旗
然后 我會在《紐約時報》 第二十頁上注明
小心不要被跟蹤
好運 總統先生 Good luck, Mr. President.
計程車 Taxi.
-你追查到哪里 -困住了 -Where are you? -Stuck.
我們的報導陷入困境 The story's stalled on us.
你覺得我會幫你嗎 And you thought l'd help?
我不會在文章里引用你的話 l'll never quote you.
就算是以匿名的方式也不會 l wouldn't quote you even as an anonymous source.
你提供的只會被當做背景資料 You'd be on deep background.
你知道你可以相信我的 You can trust me. You know that.
繼續吧 Go on.
你可以告訴我你知道什么嗎 Can you tell me what you know?
你告訴我你知道的部分 You tell me what you know.
杭特在白宮幫卡爾森工作 Hunt worked for Colson at the White House.
杭特因查帕奎迪克的事 調查肯尼迪的事情 Hunt was investigating Kennedy at Chappaquiddick.
我應該告訴你那些 還有呢 That should tell you a lot. What else?
我們開始聽到總統連任委員會里 We're beginning to hear a lot about a lawyer at CREEP
一個叫做高登力迪的律師 named Gordon Liddy... who's....
他因為不肯跟聯邦調查局合作 被米契爾開除 Gordon Liddy... was fired by Mitchell because he wouldn't talk to the FBl.
-你不會再聽到關于他的事了 -他會說嗎 -You'll hear more. -Will he talk?
我曾經在某個派對上看到力迪 他把手放在蠟燭上面 l was at a party once, and...
一直沒有拿開 Liddy put his hand over a candle, and he kept it there.
他把手放在燭火上面 直到手被燒到為止 He kept it right in the flame until his flesh was burned.
有人問他訣竅在哪里 力迪說 Somebody said, "What's the trick?" And Liddy said,
"訣竅就是不要在意" "The trick is not minding."
這篇報導很沒內容 The story is dry.
我們只得到一堆不完整的資料 All we've got are pieces.
我們想不懂到底是什么狀況 We can't seem to figure out what the puzzle is supposed to look like.
約翰米契爾辭掉支持總統連任 委員會的會長職務 John Mitchell resigns as the head of CREEP...
他說他要把時間留給家人 and says that he wants to spend more time with his family.
聽起來只是借口 我們不太相信 Sounds like bullshit. We don't exactly believe that.
對啊 不過聽來是很感人 No, but it's touching.
別相信媒體幫白宮塑造的神秘感 Forget the myths the media's created about the White House.
真實的狀況是 這些人并不聰明 The truth is, these are not very bright guys...
他們把事情搞砸了 and things got out of hand.
杭特臨時加入 Hunt's come in from the cold.
他理應找個拿了兩萬五的律師 Supposedly, he's got a lawyer with $25,000 in a brown paper bag.
追蹤錢的走向 Follow the money.
什么意思 What do you mean?
-在哪里 -這我可不能跟你說 Where?l can't tell you that.
你可以的 But you could tell me that.
不行 一切得照我的方式來 No, l have to do this my way.
你告訴我你知道的資訊 然后我來做確認 You tell me what you know and l'll confirm.
我會盡力把你引導到正確的方向上 不過僅止于此 l'll keep you in the right direction if l can, but that's all.
追蹤錢的走向就對了 Just follow the money.
打給共和黨的電話 與打劫民主黨有關
-該死的《紐約時報》 -怎么啦 -Goddamn New York Times. -What is it?
邁阿密的竊賊致電總統連任委員會 Phone calls from burglars in Miami to the Committee to Re-Elect.
-十五通電話 -至少十五通 Fifteen phone calls.
早在三月15日 At least 15 phone calls and those phone calls
他們就打了電話 were made as early as March 15...
搶劫的三個月前 which is a full three months before the break-in.
"八萬九千元付給一位 優秀的墨西哥律師" "$89,000 issued in the name of a prominent Mexican lawyer."
八萬九千元的墨西哥支票 $89,000 in Mexican checks?
為什么我們沒找到這個資訊 Why didn't we get this?
他們的消息來源是誰 Who are their sources?
我還有朋友在在電話公司上班耶 l even know someone who works at the phone company.
卡爾 如果約翰米契爾 要你的通聯記錄 Carl, if John Mitchell wanted your phone records...
你一定會抗議他侵犯你的隱私權 you'd be running around yelling invasion of privacy.
他們的資料是正確的嗎 Was the New York Times article accurate?
對 可是我不能給你名冊 Yeah, but l can't get you a fuller listing.
-為什么 -他們申請傳票 -Why? They've subpoenaed
拿到所有博納巴克的通聯記錄 all of Bernard Barker's phone records.
他們想知道水門案的竊賊 l think they're trying to find out if the Watergate burglars
有沒有違反佛羅里達州法 broke any Florida law.
-誰發的傳票 -邁阿密地方檢察官 -Who subpoenaed them? -Miami DA.
-他叫什么名字 -我不知道 -What's his name? -l don't know his name.
不過主持整個調查案件的人 姓達迪斯 But, the guy who's heading the investigation is named Dardis.
-達迪斯 他的名字呢 -達迪斯 Dardis. What's his first name?
我不知道他叫什么名 l don't know his first name.
我想你得自己去找答案 l guess you'll have to find that out.
-嗨 -哈? Hi. l'm Carl Bernstein, l have a 9:15 appointment with Mr. Dardis.
我是卡爾伯恩斯坦 我跟達迪斯先生約九點十五分 Yes, Mr. Bernstein, l'm afraid that Mr. Dardis...
達迪斯先生今天早上恐怕無法見你 won't be able to see you this morning.
-他的行程都滿了 -你們一定搞錯了 His calendar is really quite full.
我是親自預約的 There must be a mistake. l made the appointment with him personally.
所有預約應該是我負責的 -l called from Washington. -lt should've been made through me.
如果你能等 我會看看是不是可以幫你安插 lf you care to wait, l'll see if l can squeeze you in later.
非常謝謝你 Oh, thanks very much.
我想他自己預約是有點困難的 l guess it's difficult when he makes his own appointments.
對 我們會處理的 Yes, well, we try to handle it.
戴德郡書記辦公室
現在四點 我們十五分鐘后回來 lt's 4:00, we'll be back in 15 minutes.
要我們買什么東西嗎 You want anything?
-黑咖啡 -黑咖啡 -Coffee, black. -Coffee, black.
我還在這里 l'm still here.
我很開心 l'm so glad.
就算只有五分鐘也好 lf you could just get me in to see him for five minutes, l'd appreciate it.
-是的 伯恩斯坦先生 -我得回去了 -No, Mr. Bernstein. -l have to get back.
我們要試試看 We're going to try.
嗨 他在等你 Oh, hi. He's expecting you.
我有幾件事情得做 l do have a couple of things to do.
如果要找我 我在喜來登大飯店 l'll be at the Sheraton if you want to reach me.
如果他明天有時間見我 我會非常感激 lf he has any space tomorrow, l'd appreciate it. Number's on the back.
-好 -謝謝你 -Fine. -Thank you for your patience.
謝謝你 伯恩斯坦先生 明天應該會比較好 Thank you, Mr. Bernstein. Tomorrow it should be better.
我想也是 l guess so.
達迪斯先生辦公室 Mr. Dardis' office.
嗨 請轉告達迪斯先生 伯恩斯坦先生剛離開了 Hi. Please tell Mr. Dardis that Mr. Bernstein has just left.
他明天一整天都會沒有空 He'll be available all day tomorrow.
我想我們大概可以把他排在四點半 l think we can probably squeeze him in around 4:30.
-好 -請轉告達迪斯先生 Yes. And please tell Mr. Dardis that
他六點半有客人 不要遲到 he doesn't want to be late for his 6:30 appointment.
-好的 -謝謝 -Yes, l will. -Thank you.
達迪斯先生辦公室 Mr. Dardis' office.
我是馬丁遜 This is Mr. Martinson over at the County---l beg your pardon?
-從郡書記辦公室打電話來 -你說什么 Martinson, over at the County Clerk's office.
這里有些達迪斯需要的記錄 There's some records here that Dardis wanted right away.
請快點過來拿 我們要關門了 Could you come and get them? We're closing.
喔 好 我馬上過去 Well, yes, l'll be right over.
不好意思 Excuse me
應該也會比較簡單 等等 干嘛 Could be easier, too. All right. Hold it. -What? -Excuse me.
-不好意思 -嗨 請問有什么事嗎 Hi. Can l help you in some way?
-我是伯恩斯坦 我從九點就開始等 l'm Carl Bernstein. l've been waiting since 9:00.
-能請你在外面等嗎 -我從早上就開始待在這了 -Would you wait outside? -l've been waiting out since morning.
-去講完你的電話吧 -能請你到外面等嗎 -Go ahead. Finish your call. -Wait outside, please, will you?
-不 不 不 -我是《華盛頓郵報》的記者 No. l'm the reporter from the Washington Post.
我們昨天講過電話 We talked on the telephone yesterday...
你叫我今天過來 and you told me to come on down here and l'm here.
好 有記者來了 我待會再打電話給你 Okay, yeah. l've got the press here. l'm gonna have to call you back.
如果你不想見我 lf you didn't want to see me l don't know why the hell...
為什么不在我還在華盛頓的時候說 you didn't tell me when l was in Washington?
我在這里浪費了一天 報社還在等我的報導 l just wasted a whole goddamned day here. My paper's waiting for a story.
你叫我過來 跟我說"你的預約時間是九點半" You tell me yesterday to come here. You said l got a 9:30 appointment.
我已經等你等了整天 l've been waiting out here the whole day.
今天的時機非常的不巧 Caught me on the worst day possible.
我的老板準備要競選 The man l work for has just started a re-election campaign.
我得等到明天才能見你了 好嗎 Now, we're gonna have to see each other tomorrow. Okay?
不行 我得趕著截稿 報社已經幫我留了篇幅 No, sir, l'm facing a deadline and my paper's saving a space for me.
-我現在沒有時間 -我很抱歉 -l just don't have a minute now. -Well, l'm sorry....
-米藍恩鞱 -達迪斯先生 Mr. Dardis, l'm really very sorry about this. Mr. Bernstein--
-非常抱歉 伯恩斯坦先生鞱 -抱歉 l beg your pardon, ma'am, but this gentleman...
這位先生已經跟我預約了 made the appointment with me specifically.
《華盛頓郵報》也該獲得同樣的待遇 And l think the Washington Post deserves the same courtesy...
外面還有人在等待 as any of the people waiting out there, with all due respect.
我五分鐘之后會通知你 l'll buzz you in about five minutes.
那位女士對我很好 The lady takes good care of me.
我們今晚不能討論 The fact is we just can't go into it this evening.
一切得等到明天再說 好嗎 lt's going to have to wait till tomorrow. Okay?
我希望你能在我離開前告訴我 我現在得回去報社 l just wish you could've told me that before l left...
不管用什么方式 because l gotta go back to my paper now and write that story...
都得把報導寫出來 one way or another, that's all.
你想要看巴克先生的通聯記錄跟 金錢交易記錄嗎 Do you want to see Mr. Barker's phone records and his money records?
你叫我過來 跟我說你有巴克的資料 You told me on the phone if l'd come here you'd show everything you got on Barker.
-我要的就是那些資料 -我有的就是那些 -That's all l want. -Well, that's what l've got.
那很好 Well, that's fine.
好 我們得談個條件 Okay, you and l are going to have to have an agreement...
你不能泄漏消息來源 that you're not going to reveal the source of your information.
-這些是出納支票鞱 -都是墨西哥支票嗎 All these are cashier's checks on a bank in Mexico City.
-在墨西哥城的一家銀行 -這些都是墨西哥的嗎 -All these checks from Mexico? -Si.
-看到沒 -錢是從那里來的嗎 How come? Did the money originate there?
我懷疑一開始可能是披索 Well, l doubt it started off as pesos.
等等 這個是什么 Wait a minute, what's this one?
什么 喔 兩萬五美金 What's.... Okay, $25,000.
-那個人是誰 -肯尼達伯格 -Who's that? -Kenneth H. Dahlberg.
我們還無法確定那個人是誰 We haven't been able to ascertain who that is.
鮑伯 我有了新的資訊 可是不知道有沒有關聯 Bob, listen, l think l got something. l don't know what it is.
有個叫做肯尼斯達伯格的人 But somewhere in this world there's a Kenneth H. Dahlberg.
我們得趕在《紐約時報》之前找到他 And we've got to get to him before the New York Times does.
我想他們也有同樣的消息 Because l think they have the same information.
快點寫下來 肯尼斯達伯格 Got a pencil? Write this down. Quick. Kenneth H. Dahlberg.
達成的達 伯父的伯 格子的格 D-A-H-L-B-E-R-G.
肯尼斯達伯格
麥高文之前公開支持伊高頓 McGovern, who at first had voiced complete support for Eagleton...
可是最近他開始持不同意見 has more recently expressed doubts...
表示伊高頓得 and said that Eagleton must make a decision...
在去留之間做個決定 whether to stay or leave the ticket.
你是那個想要寫關于達格伯的人嗎 You're the one that wanted the articles...
-肯尼斯達格伯 -對 -on Dahlberg, Kenneth H. Dahlberg? -Yeah.
我在資料夾里面什么都找不到 Couldn't find anything in the clip file at all.
那真是好極了 Oh, wonderful.
不過我到是找到一張照片 不知道有沒有幫助 l did find one picture though, if it's any help.
謝謝 Thanks.
獲頒銅十字英勇勛章
明尼蘇達 Minnesota.
明尼蘇達 明尼蘇達 Minneapolis....
肯尼斯達格伯
這是我深思熟慮之后做出的結論 l base that conclusion upon my conversations with his doctors...
我跟醫生談過 還有透過個人跟政治組織 and my close personal and political association....
-請接外線 -好 -Outside line, please. -Yes.
謝謝 -Thank you. -...the joint decision...
我們今晚已經達成了 健康不是一個事實 that we have reached tonight, health would not affect.
可是民眾認為伊高頓參議員 But the public debate...
健康有問題 over Senator Eagleton's past medical history...
這可以模糊焦點 continues to divert attention from the great national issues...
逃避應該被討論的國家議題 that need to be discussed.
我感到越來越大的壓力 l have referred to the growing pressures that ask...
要求伊高頓參議員退出 for Senator Eagleton's withdrawal.
-哈? -可以請你?達格伯先生 Hello? -Could l please.... Mr. Dahlberg? -
-喂 -你是肯尼斯達格伯嗎 Yes. -Kenneth Dahlberg?
我是 -Yes.
我是《華盛頓郵報》的鮑伯伍華德 This is Bob Woodward of the Washington Post.
-嗯鞱 -有關那張兩萬五千元的支票 -Yes? -About that $25,000 check...
存入水門案 其中一個竊賊的戶頭里面 deposited in the bank account of one of the Watergate burglars...
就是博納巴克先生 Mr. Bernard Barker....
那張支票上有你的名字 As you know, sir, the check has your name on it.
我們正在寫關這件事的報導 We were doing a story on this...
不知道你對這件事有什么想法或解釋 and l was wondering if you would care to comment or explain?
我把所有的錢都交給委員會 l turn all my money over to the Committee.
是什么委員會 連任委員會嗎 What committee is that, sir? The Committee to Re-Elect?
-是的 -為什么要那樣做 -Yes. -Why would you do that?
我募了很多款項 我是中西部的財務主席 l raise a lot of money. l'm Midwest Finance Chairman.
是幫連任委員會嗎 For the Committee to Re-Elect?
-哈? -是的 -Hello? -Yes, that's right.
你的錢為什么會進到 How do you think your check got into
水門案竊賊的戶頭里 the bank account of the Watergate burglar?
我是個奉公守法的公民 我所做的事情都是合法的 l'm a proper citizen. What l do is proper.
我了解 Oh, l understand.
我剛經歷過一段很痛苦的時間 l've just been through a terrible ordeal.
我鄰居的老婆被綁架 My neighbor's wife has been kidnapped.
你的錢為什么會進到巴克的戶頭 How do you think your check got into Barker's account list?
總統連任委員會 Committee to Re-Elect the President.
請找克拉克麥奎格先生 Could l speak to Mr. Clark MacGregor?
-請稍后 我幫你轉接 -謝謝 謝謝 -One moment, l'll connect you. -Thank you.
-喂 -麥奎格先生 Yes? -Mr. MacGregor? -Yes.
-我是 -我是《華盛頓郵報》的鮑伯伍華德 This is Bob Woodward of the Washington Post.
-哈? -是 -Hello? -Yes.
我是《華盛頓郵報》的鮑伯伍華德 This is Bob Woodward of the Washington Post.
我剛跟肯尼斯達格伯先生談過 l just spoke to a Mr. Kenneth Dahlberg...
-他說他是中西部的財務鞱 -我知道達格伯 who says that he is Midwest Finance Chairman. Yeah, l know Ken Dahlberg.
沒有人能跟我解釋 為什么一張 Well, l can't seem to get an explanation on why a check...
兩萬五千美金的支票 for $25,000 made out to Mr. Dahlberg...
原本是達格伯要寄給 that he apparently sent to the Committee to Re-Elect the President...
連任委員會的錢 最后卻跑到水門案竊賊的戶頭里 would end up in the bank account of a Watergate burglar.
-我不知道 l don't know.
-但你是委員會會長 先生 我才剛上任 -But you're head of the Committee, sir. -Look, l just came aboard.
約翰米契爾是前任會長 他搞不好會知道 John Mitchell was the head of the Committee. He might know.
-可能的解釋是什么呢 -我不知道 Well, what would the explanation possibly be--l don't know.
你的意思是我應該知道答案 You're implying that l should know...
如果你把新聞寫出來 那么我們的關系也就到此為止 and if you print that, our relationship will be terminated.
可是先生 我們沒有關系 Sir, we don't have a relationship.
選舉的重要議題是和平跟國家繁榮 The issues of the campaign are peace and prosperity...
而不是選舉支票 not a campaign check.
-鮑伯 鮑伯 -先生 沒有人說 -Bob. -Sir, no one is saying....
-這件事發生在我接管之前 -達格伯先生在二線上 -...this happened before l came on board. -Mr. Dahlberg is on line 2.
為了總統的連任 l'm running a campaign for the re-election of the President.
我們已經籌募了六千萬美金 We've raised $60 million
而你竟然追問兩萬五千的支票 and you're asking about a $25,000 check.
麥奎格先生 不好意思 你能等我一下嗎 Mr. MacGregor, excuse me, could you hold one second, please?
-好吧 -謝謝 是 -All right. -Thank you. Yes?
-哈? -達伯格先生 -Hello. -Mr. Dahlberg?
-是 -能請你等一下嗎 -Yes? -Could you please hold one second, sir?
-好的 -謝謝 麥奎格先生 -Yes. -Thank you. -Mr. MacGregor? -Yeah?
-是 -我可以之后回電給你嗎 Can l call you right back, sir? l'm very sorry.
-可以 -謝謝 達伯格先生 -Yeah, okay. -Mr. Dahlberg.
是 抱歉 我剛剛掛了電話 Yes. l'm sorry l hung up before.
我不確定你是不是真的 《華盛頓郵報》的記者 l wasn't sure you were a Washington Post reporter.
我想我們討論的是兩萬五千的支票 l believe we were talking about a $25,000 check.
很顯然的 這對我來說很難 Obviously this is difficult for me.
我被自己不知道的事情困住 l'm caught in the middle of something and... l don't know what.
你覺得那些東西是什么呢 What do you think it could be?
我處理很多重要人物的事情 l deal with a lot of important people.
幫連任委員會工作的人嗎 People who work for the Committee? Hello?
-哈? -接連任委員會 For the Committee.
-連任委員會 -是 -The Committee to Re-Elect the President? -Yes.
我募的款項都是現金 You see, l raised that money in cash...
而且在佛羅里達還有避寒的房子 and l have a winter home in Florida.
那是邁阿密嗎 -ls that Miami?
是博卡拉頓 -Boca Raton...
我可不想把現金帶來帶去 and l didn't want to carry all that cash around.
-你可以理解吧 -是的 -Now, you can understand that. -Of course l can.
所以我換成現金支票 So, l had it exchanged for the cashier's check.
那你覺得錢為什么 會被放進竊賊的戶頭 And how do you think it got into Barker's account?
我知道我不該跟你說 l know l shouldn't be telling you this....
我把錢給史丹思先生 l gave it to Mr. Stans.
你說什么 l beg your pardon?
-我把錢給史丹思先生了 -慕利斯史丹思 l gave it to Stans. Maurice Stans?
-尼克森的財務總長 -是的 在華盛頓 -The head of finance for Nixon? -Yes, in Washington.
他怎么處理那筆錢 我真的不知道 Now what he did with it, l really do not know.
好 還有任何讓你起疑的支票嗎 l see. Were there any other checks that you might be aware of, that could--
我要說的就是這些了 That's all l have to say.
麥奎格先生 達伯格先生 Mr. MacGregor.... Mr. Dahlberg...
抱歉 非常謝謝你 l'm sorry. Thank you very much.
-鮑伯 -干嘛 -Bob? -Yeah.
卡爾伯恩斯坦在一線 -Carl Bernstein on line 1 . -One?
-一線 哈? -伍華德 -Yeah? -Woodward?
-伯恩斯坦 -我想我從達格伯那找到一些頭緒了 -Bernstein. -l think l got a lead on Dahlberg.
-我知道了 -知道什么 -l just.... l got it. -What?
他剛掛電話 l just talked to him.
這整件事情要追溯到史丹思 l just hung up from him. Bernstein, listen, it goes all the way to Stans!
-你在說什么 -事情要追溯到史丹思 -What're you talking about? -lt goes all the way to Stans.
是他把錢給連任委員會的 He gave the check to Stans for the Committee to Re-Elect!
-他有那樣說嗎 -有 我已經記在本子里了 -Did he say that? -He said it. l've got it in my notes.
-天啊 -已經記下來了 伯恩斯坦 -Jesus. -lt's down on record, Bernstein.
那筆錢最后跑到水門案 竊賊的戶頭里 That money winds up in the bank account of a Watergate burglar?
-對 -太好了 我要回家了 -Yes! -Fantastic. l'm coming home.
好 Okay.
他得一輩子當個無名的參議員 ...catapulted the unknown Senator from Missouri
永遠受到那件國際知名新聞 into national prominence...
報導他提名伊高頓為競選伙伴的影響 by naming Eagleton as his running mate.
這是最讓人驚訝的 The most surprase is
為了支持民主黨而得要付出代價 ...bolstering of support for the Democratic ticket--
你跟我們說過的臺灣事情 到底是怎么樣 Scott, what happened with that Taiwan thing you were telling us about?
日本要跟臺灣斷絕外交關系 Japan is going to break diplomatic ties with Taiwan...
跟中國建交 when they recognize Red China.
很諷刺的 那是尼克森訪問中國的原因 The irony, of course, that's a direct result of Nixon's visit to China.
他跟他說什么 他跟他說了什么 Jesus, what did he tell them? What did he say to them?
如果要做國際緩和政策的新聞 lncidentally, that's a great parallel story...
這會是篇很棒的并行報導 if you're going to do that piece on detente.
好 伊麗莎白女王宣布 國家進入警戒狀態 Right, "Queen Elizabeth proclaims a state of emergency...
必須迅速處理碼頭的抗爭 "to deal with what we call a 'dock strike."'
來辦公室好了 Breaking it off...
放在人情事故版 l'll give you a human interest.
菲律賓連下31天的雨 "Thirty-one days of rain in the Philippines...
傳聞是跟耶穌雕像被偷有關 "is being blamed on the theft of a statue of Jesus."
-我們之前做過類似的新聞了 -我之前沒聽過 We had one like that before.
-這篇報導絕對不可少 -印度的天氣呢 -l'll put my best writer on that.
-六個月前的 -別提那個 -What about the one in lndia?
笑吧 各位 那可是我唯一想看的新聞報導 Laugh, gentlemen, it'll be the only story everyone reads.
-好吧 全國新聞呢 -現在有布默日記 Okay, National? We have the Bremer diary. "Wish to kill Nixon."
他想要暗殺尼克森 開車經由紐約 He took a car trip to New York,
渥太華 然后到華盛頓來殺他 Ottawa, and Washington to kill him.
參議院通過限制反彈道飛彈條約 We have the "Senate approving the ABM Treaty."
-反導條約 -還有麥高文 ABM.
向大家推銷副總統寶座 Of course, we have "McGovern offering the VP spot..." to everybody.
-這到是新聞 -我有 -Yeah, that's news. -l have--
大家都不贊成 我告訴大家什么是新聞 Because everybody's been offered it.
有人接受的就是新聞 Now, l'll tell you what will be news. When somebody accepts it. That's news
精彩的部分來了 Here is some great art.
麥高文跟亨菲利在吃早餐的時候 開懷大笑 McGovern and Humphrey at breakfast, smiling their asses off.
很棒吧 lsn't that great?
-他說 "我是喬治的朋友鞱" -他在笑什么 -He says, "l am George's friend..." -Why is that man smiling?
很友善 聽來很友善 Sounds friendly. Very friendly.
我會用他想像不到的方式幫助他 "l'll be helping him in ways he never dreamed possible."
我不想在午餐前說 Breakfast followed by lunch.
好 都會版版 Okay. Metro?
一群老師在國會山莊前抗議 Well, we got the schoolteachers on Capitol Hill.
他們要求加薪百分之十七 不然秋季要罷工抗議 They want a 17% increase in pay or this fall they go on strike.
哈利 我想我們可以說這次大概 Harry, l think we could mention that this might be the time...
是把自治條例放上頭版的時候了 to go to the front page on the district home rule.
-拜托 -聽著 -Oh, come on! -Listen to him.
班 這次我們可以盡管登 Ben, this time it could go all the way.
眾議院下禮拜 要投票表決一項參議院決議 The House is going to vote next week on a Senate resolution.
好 當他們通過的時候我們再放 Okay then, well, when they pass it, we'll run with it.
好了 各位 再重復一次 國際版 Okay, fellas, let's go around again now. Foreign?
-臺灣外交緊急狀態 菲律賓 -好 全國版 Taiwan emergency, Philippines. Okay, fine. National?
追蹤伊高頓 l'll stand on the Eagleton follow-ups...
還有麥高文找不到接棒人 McGovern not being able to get a replacement.
他問過亨菲利 肯尼迪跟瑞比克夫 他們都拒絕了 He's offered it to Humphrey, Kennedy, and Ribicoff. All turned him down.
這是頭版新聞 That's the Page 1 lead right there.
你忽略掉達伯格事件的影響 You're ignoring the importance of the Dahlberg repercussions.
沒人在乎達伯格事件 Nobody cares about the Dahlberg repercussions.
他們讓審計部 Now look, it was our story that got the General Accounting Office...
開始審核連任委員會的財務狀況 to start an audit with CREEP Finance.
等該死的審核結束 We printed that didn't we?
我們再登吧 When the frigging audit's done, we'll print that, too.
讓我告訴你們今天發生了什么事 Let me tell you what happened today.
我今天去圣蘇喜吃午餐 l was having lunch at the Sans Souci, and...
你們舉手投降吧 Shoe me you hands
我碰到一個白宮人員 一個很好很專業的人 this White House guy, a good one, a pro...
他過來問我 你們干嘛對水門案這么窮追猛打 came up and asked me, "What is this Watergate compulsion with you guys?"
-窮追猛打 這倒是新聞 -我說 Compulsion? This is a story.
這不是窮追猛打 This is not compulsion.
我說 "我們認為這個事件很重要" 結果他說 l said, "Well, we think it's important." And he said:
"如果這么重要的話 伍華德跟伯恩斯坦是哪號人物" "lf it's so goddamn important, who in the hell are Woodward and Bernstein?"
能期待他們說什么呢 Now, what do you expect him to say from the White House?
"你們做的很棒" "You're doing a great job"?
你為什么不問他到底想說什么 Why don't you ask him what he's really saying?
他要把那則報導 He wants to take the story away from Woodstein and...
從伍德斯坦雙人組手中搶走 放到他自己的國內版 -give it to his National desk. -At least l have...
我有了解政治又身經百戰的人 some experienced guys sitting around who know the politicians...
-有很多消息來源 -我們知道 -who have the contacts. -We're aware of that.
-是你說的 坐在身邊的人 -班 You said it. Sitting around.
這是一個具有危險性的故事 Ben, it's a dangerous story for this paper.
如果那些人搞錯了怎么辦 -What if your boys get it wrong?
到時候倒霉的是我們 不是嗎 -Then it's our ass, isn't it?
我們都得為生活努力工作 We all have to go out and work for a living.
全國版有八欄 國際版有九欄 National gets eight columns. Nine for Foreign.
都會版十五個 Metro, 15.
好了 各位 That's it, fellas.
干的好 Good job
嘿 史考特 我得跟你談一下 Hey, Scott, l need to see you.
到底有多危險 How dangerous?
這個嘛 Well,
我不喜歡報導里面 用不具名的消息來源 it's not just that we're using unnamed sources that bothers me...
也不喜歡白宮否認我們報導的東西 or that everything we print, the White House denies...
沒有別的報紙追蹤報導我們登的新聞 也讓我很不舒服 or that almost no other papers are reprinting our stuff.
那要怎么樣 What then?
這里有超過兩千個記者 Look, there are over 2,000 reporters in this town...
只有五個人在追水門案 are there five on Watergate?
《華盛頓郵報》什么時候 變成唯一有智慧的報紙啦 Where did the Washington Post suddenly get the monopoly on wisdom?
共和黨員為什么要那樣做 Why would the Republicans do it?
麥高文是在自我毀滅 McGovern is self-destructing,
就跟亨菲利跟穆斯基那些人一樣 just like Humphrey, Muskie, the bunch of them.
我不相信這篇報導 l don't believe their story.
太不合理了 lt doesn't make sense.
對 Yeah, Bernstein.
現在 Now? All right.
伍華德 布雷迪現在可以見我們了 別再打了 Woodward, Bradlee will see us now. Answer the phone for me, will you?
你是想找最低的? Are you trying to find the lowest possible common denominator....
不要放棄啊
鮑伯 又是他
跟他說我是攝影記者
好
班 這是最熱門的新聞 被超過五百個報紙采用 Ben, it's the hottest item. -lt's in over 500 papers. -What is it?
-什么新聞 -昨天的氣象新聞 Yesterday's weather report for people who were drunk...
這是給那些酒醉昏睡整天的人 and slept all day.
天啊 快送給《舊金山紀實報》 Jesus! Send it out... to the San Francisco Chronicle. They need it.
-猜字游戲呢 -我已經談好條件 -How about the crossword puzzle? -No. Anagrams?
沒有地方放了 沒有地方 麥基 -No space, Mickey. -Goodbye.
你們跟我買的最后 一篇文章會是訃文 The last thing you bought from me was the obituaries.
-想辦法讓他們買 好嗎 -好 你們要什么 -Make him buy something, will you? -All right. Hey, what do you guys want?
審計部新聞的截止日是 The GAO report's due out the morning
-尼克森重新提名的那天早上 -嘿 坐下 of Nixon's renomination. Sit down.
喔 那還有兩個禮拜 Well, that's two weeks from now.
既然他們只對國會負責 Since they're only responsible to Congress...
那么白宮就無法控制整個調查 there's no way the White House can control the investigation.
審計部的人告訴我們 There's a source over at General Accounting that tells us...
連任委員會里有違法的勾當 there's a whole rat's nest of illegal shit going on over at CREEP.
比如說 Like what?
比如說行賄基金 Like a slush fund.
好幾百萬的 Hundreds of thousands of dollars of unaccounted-for cash.
-黑金 -好幾百萬 Hundreds of thousands of dollars?
-連任委員會有回應嗎 -有 他們不愿回應 Any comment from CREEP? Yes. Unavailable for comment. They're not talking.
-他們不作任何回應 -除了錢的問題之外呢 But what else besides the money?
新聞的重點在哪里 Where's the goddamn story?
錢就是重點 The money's the key to whatever this is.
-誰說得 -深喉嚨 -Says who? -Deep Throat.
-誰 -伍華德的車庫怪客朋友 -Who? -Oh, that's Woodward's garage freak...
-他在政府的消息來源 -車庫怪客 his source in the executive--
天啊 這是哪門子異想天開的新聞啊 Garage freak? Jesus, what kind of a crazy, fucking story is this?
你說是誰 Who did you say?
他只藏在遙遠的背景之后 我叫他深喉嚨 He's on deep background. l call him "Deep Throat."
麥克葛文退出 Look, McGovern's dropped to nothing...
尼克森一定會再度被提名 Nixon's guaranteed the renomination...
《華盛頓郵報》 出了一個沒人要的新聞 and the Post is stuck with a story no one else wants.
這會把報社害慘的 lt'll sink the goddamn paper.
大家都說"放手吧 班" 我努力扮演好長官的角色 Everyone says, "Get off it, Ben." And l come on very sage...
我跟他們說 "你們等著看吧" and l say, "You'll see. You wait till this bottoms out."
可是我根本不知道出這篇新聞干嘛 But the truth is, l can't figure out what we've got.
你們還在追些什么 What else are you working on?
-我們在追連任委員會的名單 We're after a list of CREEP employees.
-在哪里 那是機密文件 -Where is it? -lt's classified.
-那你們要怎么拿到 -目前為止我們的運氣不是太好 -How are you gonna get it? -We haven't had any luck, yet.
那就想辦法求點好運 Get some.
還有呢 Anything else?
你剛犯了錯 You made a mistake in there.
什么錯 What?
你說我們運氣不好 就是那句話讓他抓狂 You said to Brad that we haven't had any luck yet...
你不應該說什么運氣不運氣的 and that's the thing that he jumps on.
如果你沒辦法跟他說實際的進展 You can't talk about luck.
那就最好閉嘴 lf you can't talk in specifics, you shouldn't say anything.
你有不抽煙的時候嗎 ls there any place you don't smoke?
-等一下 -What? -Hold it.
-你在干嘛 凱艾迪 -What're you doing? -Kay Eddy.
她不是跟一個 在連任委員會工作的人約會嗎 Doesn't she go with a guy that works for the Committee to Re-Elect?
-太好了 -艾迪 -The E.R. -All right. -Eddy?
-等等 -我需要你 Hey. Kay, can---Just a second.
7576521 -757-6521.
好 我待會就給你 -Okay, l'll get back to you on this, thanks.
你不是跟一個 在連任委員會工作的人在一起嗎 Don't you go with a guy that works for the Committee to Re-Elect?
-現在沒有了 -你的確有跟他在一起過吧 -Not anymore. -You did go with him, though.
不是跟他訂了婚 l think you were engaged to him, weren't you?
-對 -所以你跟他解除婚約 -Yeah. -You got out of it?
-那又怎樣 -你看起來比以前美多了 -So? -You're looking better.
我們需要委員會的工作人員名單 你覺得? Look, we need a list of the people that work there. Do you think that....
-我不能那樣做 -為什么 -l can't do that. -Why not?
-這牽涉到私人問題 -什么意思 lt's personal.What do you mean?
你說你們之間已經結束了 You said it was over.
你們要我利用一個我在乎的人 You're asking me to use a guy l care about.
不是的 我們不是要你利用他 No. We're not asking you to use him...
只是希望你幫我們的忙 Well, sure--
我們也可以幫你 ...just to help us. l mean, we'd do the same for you.
我可以拿到名單的唯一方法 就是去找他 My only chance of getting that story is if l see him.
可是我不想再看到他 l don't want to see him again.
-但是你一定得見他嗎 -對 -Do you have to see him? -Sure, l have to see him.
你可以不用這么勉強 你可以打電話給他 No. Do you have to see him that way?Can't you just call him up
跟他說你想約他喝個東西 on the telephone and say you want to have a drink with him, just feel him out?
你說你們之間已經結束了 你還害怕失去什么呢 You say the relationship is over. What the hell do you have to lose?
算了 Forget it.
我們不想強迫你 We don't want you to do anything that would embarrass you...
去做讓自己感到尷尬或不喜歡的事 or that you don't feel right about.
算了 Forget it.
你干嘛就這樣放棄 她本來有話要說的 Don't let her just get off. l think she was going to say something.
這只是遲早的事情 她會給我們想要的東西的 You just overdramatized it, she was going to give us what we want.
-結束了 -什么 lt's over. -What?
結束了 -lt's over.
這篇報導看來是你的 我打賭你一定看過
看看這個
他們以為可以讓艾迪幫他們 可是他們錯了
開始列印
-這是全部的名單嗎 ls this the whole list?
-看看上面寫得 連任委員會人員 Look what it says. "Personnel, Committee to Re-Elect the President."
這是依字母順序排列的 無法分辨誰替誰工作 This is all in alphabetical order. You can't tell who works for who.
找一下部門首長 米契爾 馬古德跟史丹思 Well, find out the department heads like Mitchell, Magruder, Stans.
-這里 約翰米契爾 -號碼幾號 Here. John Mitchell.
-好 找到 -What's the number? -301 . All right. Find somebody who has a number close to it.
號碼相近的人 他們搞不好幫他工作 -They probably work for him. -There's a 303.
好 Okay.
我們得找出史丹思的錢 Okay, we have to find out how the money
是怎么跑到竊賊手中的 got from Maurice Stans to the burglars.
以前在財政工作過的人 Somebody who worked in Finance.
好 這是財政的主席 慕利斯史丹思 269 All right. Here's the head of Finance. Maurice Stans, 269.
找出幫史丹思工作的人 lf we can just get somebody who works under Stans.
史隆 你需要找他嗎 他在出納部門 -Sloan? You need him? -He's the treasurer.
-不 -休史隆 287 -What's the number? -Hugh Sloan, 287.
有秘書嗎 ls there a secretary?
等等 在這里 Wait a minute.
-曼利 -艾琳曼利 Manley. Here it is. lrene Manley?
-對 -李杰克遜紀念公路1406號 1406 Lee Jackson Memorial Highway.
-嗨 我是鮑伯伍華德 -我是卡爾伯恩斯坦 -Hi, l'm Bob Woodward. -l'm Carl Bernstein.
我們是《華盛頓郵報》的記者 We're from the Washington Post.
我們可以跟你談談嗎 We'd like to know if we could speak to you for a few minutes.
我們知道你女兒在連任委員會工作 We understand your daughter works for the Committee to Re-Elect.
-這不是什么可恥的事情 -你反對? -Wouldn't be anything embarrassing. -Would you object to just--
-喂 嗨 -麥蘭女士 是貝蒂麥蘭嗎 -Yes? -Hi. Miss Milland? Betty Milland?
-我是鮑伯伍華德 -我是卡爾伯恩斯坦 -l'm Bob Woodward. -Carl Bernstein.
我們是《華盛頓郵報》記者 We're from the Washington Post.
我知道你們是為了工作關系 I know you're trying to do your job. l mean....
可是你們不知道我們的壓力有多大 You don't understand the pressure that we're under.
我們可以進去嗎 lt'll just take a couple of seconds. lf we can just come in for a couple of--
-不 -我們不會進去 -No, l really don't---We don't want to come in.
我們知道在連任委員會里 We understand that there was some documents...
有些文件被碎紙機銷毀了 that were shredded at the Committee.
這是常有的事 Well, there.... There's often shredding.
-我們常這樣做 -當時你在現場嗎 We do that a lot. -Were you there during the shredding?
-是的 -原來如此 -Yes, l was. l see.
當時委員會有任何長官在場嗎 Were there any department heads from...the Committee who were also present?
有 米契爾先生有天晚上過來 Yes. Mr. Mitchell came in one night.
你是說約翰米契爾嗎 John Mitchell?
-是的 -司法部長 The Attorney General?
他當時還用雨衣套住頭 He was carrying a raincoat over his head.
我以為他要走了 結果 l thought he was going to go....
他監督你們把文件銷毀嗎 Did he supervise the shredding?
我鞱我可以不要回答問題了嗎 我最好不要回答 Can l not answer any more questions? l'd just soon not....
好嗎 我可以之后再打電話給你 Okay? Maybe l could call you?
有人叫你不要再說嗎 Are you being told not to talk?
-你會打電話給我們嗎 -不知道 我會試試看 -Will you call us? l don't know. l'll try.
竊案之后被銷毀的文件呢 What about all that shredding that took place after the break-in?
我們得知道被銷毀的文件是什么 Need to know more about the papers that were in shredding.
當司法部長 l think you've some idea what's in the papers...
在銷毀文件時進辦公室 when the former Attorney General comes to the office...
就知道哪些文件是跟連任委員會有關 when it's taking place at the Committee to Re-Elect...
他有穿雨衣 為什么要穿雨衣 and got a raincoat over his head. Why's he in a raincoat?
讓我再把事情重新整理一遍 Could be raining is what could've happened.
一個在門邊被嚇壞的女人 Let me go through the story again.
她是連任委員會的員工 You got a woman who's frightened at the door. Works for CREEP.
有些文件被銷毀 She said there's shredding taking place.
可是我們不知道那些文件是什么 We don't know what's in the papers.
我們知道前任司法部長 We know the former Attorney General
穿著連身雨衣走進辦公室 comes in with an overcoat over his head.
有可能是那天下雨 現場還有律師 lt could be raining. There's a lawyer present.
我們不知道他什么時候要求他們的 她不愿意多談 We don't know what he asked them. She wouldn't talk about it.
可以告訴我新聞點在哪嗎 Now, will you please tell me where there's a story?
新聞點 There's a story in the fact
不在于她家的訪問 that the interview did not take place in her home...
而是在連任委員會的辦公室里 but in the office of the Committee to Re-Elect.
這篇報導有新聞點 How's there a story in that? lt's not enough!
因為辦公室里有律師 There's a story because there's a lawyer in the office.
-你對于這件事比她更抗拒 -沒錯 -l mean, you're more resistant than she is. -That's right.
-為什么 -因為沒有足夠的事實 -Why? -Because there's not enough fact.
我們再回去問她一次 Well, let's just turn around and go back and question her again.
不會花你太多時間的 我們想要 This won't take long at all. We just want--
請離開好嗎 Please go away, okay?
在他們看到你們之前快離開 Will you please leave before they see you.
-你說的是? -他們是誰 -Who did you mean by---Who do you mean, "they"?
可以告訴我們他們的名字嗎 Could you give us their names?
我們不會透露消息來源的 We haven't revealed the sources of people that have talked to us.
我真的不能跟你們講這個 You know, l really can't talk about this because--
"他們"指的是 連任委員會會員嗎 Would "they" be members of the Committee?
一定有人去找那個女人 Someone got to that woman.
這就是整個官官相護的關鍵所在 lt's the key to the whole cover-up.
我們要怎么寫呢 How can you write that there's a cover-up?
我們事前根本不知道有官官相護啊 We don't know that there's a cover-up!
那我不知道你到底想要什么 Well, then, l don't know what the hell you need.
告訴我你要什么 So, you tell me what you need.
我需要更多的事實 l need more fact for a story is what l need...
我想你也一樣 and l think you should need the same thing.
好 如果你上了車 Okay, if you get in the car...
假設車上放著音樂 and there's music playing in the car, hypothetically.
如果音樂連續播放了十分鐘 中間都沒有插播廣告 There's music playing in the car for 10 minutes...
你的推論是什么 and there's no commercial. What can you deduce from that?
-是AM還是FM -拜托 -ls it AM or FM? -Come on, Bernstein!
街上有個陌生人跑過來 ls it AM or FM?
-嗯 -跟我問路 A guy can come up to me on the street and he can ask me an address.
他是在質問我呢 還是因為他迷了路 Now, is the man interrogating me, or is he lost?
我要寫什么樣的故事 What kind of a story do l write?
做什么樣的推論 What kind of a deduction do l make from that?
那是因為你感覺不到 那個女人其實想幫我們 Because you don't have a gut feeling that the woman is trying to help us?
對 我的確沒有那種感覺 我希望我有 No, l don't have enough gut feeling and l wish l did.
我們是《華盛頓郵報》的記者 We're from the Washington Post....
艾瑪 艾瑟 艾福特
艾伯特 艾迪森 奧古斯都 Abbott, Addis, Agusto, Albus....
有什么讓你覺得巧合的地方嗎 ls there something that strikes you as odd about this?
-什么 -這當中好像有個特定的模式 -What? -lt's almost like there's a pattern...
他們不愿多談的模式 拒絕我們的模式 to the way they're not talking.
我覺得這當中有蹊蹺 The way they say 'no'all the time. l think it's odd.
-漢柏林女士 -是 -Mrs. Hambling? -Yes.
嗨 我們是《華盛頓郵報》的記者 Hi, we're from the Washington Post.
我是卡爾伯恩斯坦 我是鮑伯伍華德 l'm Carl Bernstein, this is Bob Woodward.
委員會的朋友說我們可以跟你聯絡 A friend of the Committee said that we could contact you.
-誰說的 -我們不能透露 -Who was it? -We can't reveal that.
你可以放心跟我們談 我們不會透露消息來源 You can talk to us. We don't reveal our sources.
你們這些人 You people....
你們以為你們可以擅自到我家來 問我問題 You think you can come into my home, ask a few questions...
然后毀掉我一直都尊敬的 have me destroy the reputations of men that l work for
那些雇主們的名譽嗎 and respect?
你們懂不懂忠誠 Do you understand loyalty?
你們有聽過忠誠這兩個字嗎 Have you ever heard of loyalty?
-嗨 -是 -Hi. -Yes?
-我是鮑伯伍華德 -我是卡爾伯恩斯坦 l'm Bob Woodward.
-我們是《華盛頓郵報》的記者 -是的 Carl Bernstein. We're from the Washington Post.
我看過你們的文章 我想要謝謝你們 Yes. l've read what you've written. l want to thank you.
我當了共和黨員一輩子了 l've been a Republican all my life,
可是這次的事情超乎政黨政治的界線 but this goes beyond party politics.
我們能問你一些問題嗎 Would you mind if we asked you a few questions?
當然可以 請進 要喝咖啡嗎 No. Come in. Would you like coffee?
好 Sure.
他們的所作所為對憲法是很大的威脅 What they've done is a threat to the Constitution.
違背了所有我們相信支持的道理 lt goes against everything we stand for.
你可以解釋得更詳細一點嗎 Could you be a little bit more specific than that?
我想你們的文章只碰觸到表面而已 l'm afraid your articles have just scratched the surface.
你不介意我們作筆記吧 You don't mind if l just take a few notes, do you?
不介意 No.
你在委員會工作多久 How long have you worked at the Committee?
-委員會 -是的 Committee?
總統連任委員會 Yes, the Committee to Re-Elect the President.
喔 我不在總統連任委員會做事 Oh, l don't work at the Committee to Re-Elect the President.
我在嘉分可爾公司的會計部 l work at Garfinkel's, in the accounting department.
-艾伯特女士鞱 -是的 -Miss Abbott? -Yes.
是茱蒂艾伯特 Judith Abbott?
是凱若琳艾伯特 Carolyn Abbott.
我們做錯事了 We're just doing something wrong.
-從來沒有 -沒有 -Never been there. -No.
你知道天氣很熱 We're doing something wrong.
還不夠好 lt's just not good enough.
你怎么會繼續追 一件沒有意義的事情 How can you keep going at something past the point when you believe it?
你說我們該重新來過 We just have to start all over again.
尼森 尼絡 尼斯 Nasmith, Narrow, Ness...
尼可斯 尼克森 Nickels, Nixon....
艾德尼克森 Ed Nixon.
瓊森 瓊斯 Jolson, Jones...
喬登 喬斯特 Jordan, Jost.
如果能找到財政部的人愿意跟我們談 那就太好了 lf we could only get somebody that worked for Finance to talk.
-我真是不敢相信 那個簿記員 -哪個簿記員 l can't believe it. -What about the bookkeeper? -Which bookkeeper?
幫史隆做事的 The bookkeeper that worked for both Slans and--
-你說的對 -史隆跟史丹思 -Oh, you're all right. -Sloan and Stans.
我去過那里 還打了兩次電話找她 可是沒人接電話 l've been there. l've called her twice. There's no answer.
我認為我們應該再重來一遍 l say we should start again.
艾伯特 艾迪森 奧古斯都 Abbott, Addis, Agusto...
奧都斯 阿提斯 亞利山大 Albus, Aldus, Alexander...
烏拉斯基 克蘭 Balowski, Clan, Donstille...
波爾 布來納 布朗維其 Boyle, Brenner, Bromley...
喬斯特 尼森 Jost, Nasmith...
尼絡 尼斯 尼可斯 Narrow, Ness, Nickels...
提尼 山德史東 Martini, Sandstrom...
史卓克斯 史古利 Skroes, Skully....
史古利 我們去過他那兩次 Skully. We've been there twice.
威爾庫克斯 溫普 All right, Willcox, Windfall, Winter--
辛苦了兩個禮拜 Two weeks work,
一半的名字被劃掉 得到什么成果呢 half the names crossed off and what've you got?
大家都不愿意跟我們談 哈利 People aren't talking, Harry.
他們回避的方式很不尋常 And it's the way they're not talking that's unnatural.
哈利 我們已經整晚沒睡 一一比對受訪對象的說詞 Harry, we've been up all night. We went over all the quotes of the people.
感覺就像是有人給他們指令一樣 -Slamming doors in our faces. -lt's like they're getting instructions.
要聽些真正的新聞嗎 Want to hear some real news?
你們一直寄與期望的審計部報告 That GAO report in which you placed so much faith...
將會延后等到今晚重新提名之后 才會公布 well, it 's been postponed till after tonight's renomination.
-什么意思 什么 -休接到史丹思從佛州打的電話 -What do you mean? -Hughes got a call from Stans in Florida.
他得到新的資訊 得要加進去才能公布 Says he has new information, not to republish without it.
他們要等到重新提名宣布后才公開 They're going to bury the report until after the renomination.
大陪審團的彈劾很快就會出爐 每個彈劾都跟 The Grand Jury indictment will be out soon and every indication says...
那五個竊賊 杭特跟力迪有關 the indictment will stop at the five burglars, Hunt and Liddy.
這就是你們報導的結尾 And that's the end of your story.
代表團的選票結果已經出爐 The vote of all the delegates has been recorded.
理查尼克森得票 The vote for Richard Nixon...
1347票 is 1,34 7.
保羅麥可羅斯基一票 The vote for Paul McCloskey is one.
聯邦審核報告預計鞱
我在此宣布共和黨的 And therefore l declare the nominee of the Republican Party...
美國總統候選人選為 for President of the United States...
現任總統理查尼克森 President Richard Nixon.
再做四年 再做四年 Four more years!
現任及未來的美國總統 The President, and the future President of the United States of America!
我看到這些年輕的臉孔 Wonderful young faces l see out there.
看到你們的熱情 你們的理想跟努力 Your enthusiasm, your idealism, your hard work.
這是你們的第一票 This is your first vote,
多年以后回首 我希望你們能夠說 and years from now... l just hope you can all look back...
"這是你們所投最棒的一票之一" 謝謝各位 and say it was one of your best votes. Thank you.
白紙黑字 審計部拖延公布報告 Four more years!
再做四年 Four more years!
嗨 我是《華盛頓郵報》記者 卡爾伯恩斯坦 Hi, l'm Carl Bernstein of the Washington Post and...
可以請問你幾個問題嗎 l just want to ask you a couple of questions.
你要找的應該是我妹妹 Well, you don't want me. You want my sister.
找你的 是卡爾伯恩斯坦 lt's for you. lt's Carl Bernstein.
天啊 他是《華盛頓郵報》的記者 Oh, my God. He's the guy from the Post. Get rid of him.
可以借一支煙嗎 Could l just borrow one of your cigarettes there?
當然 Sure.
-你得離開 -好 You've really got to go.
可以借根火柴嗎 Sure. Could l just get a match?
我可以理解你的恐懼 l can understand your being afraid.There's a lot of people
很多跟你一樣的人也都想說出真相 at the Committee just like you... who wanted to tell the truth
可是有人卻不聽 but some people wouldn't listen.
有人去找檢察官跟聯邦調查局 Certain people have gone back to the prosecutors and the FBl...
尋找他們從沒問過的資訊 to give information which they were never asked.
休史隆在財政部幫史丹思工作時 You were Hugh Sloan's bookkeeper
你是他的簿記員 when he worked for Maurice Stans at Finance...
我們想知道你是不是 and we were just wondering if you were...
就在史隆先生辭職之后 隨即去替史丹思先生工作 promoted to work for Mr. Stans immediately after Mr. Sloan quit...
或是隔了一段時間 or whether there was some time lapse?
我從沒替史隆或史丹思工作過 l never worked for Sloan or Stans.
你要喝點咖啡嗎 Can l get you some coffee or something?
好 非常謝謝 Yeah. Thanks very much.
門卡住了 Door sticks.
我可以坐一下嗎 Could l just sit down for a second?
當然可以 但我是不會透露任何事情的 Sure, you can sit down, but l'm not going to tell you anything.
好 Okay.
我只是好奇你之前為什么說謊 l was just curious why you lied just then.
你被威脅不能說出實情嗎 Have you been threatened if you tell the truth?
沒有 No.
沒有用那么多字眼 Never in so many words.
-咖啡要加些什么嗎 -牛奶就好 謝謝 -How do you like it? -Just milk.
好 快喝完 -Thanks. -Okay, l'll just get that.
我在電視節目上看到 史丹思先生住院了 l saw in the wires that Mrs. Stans was in the hospital.
他好點了嗎 ls she feeling better?
根據審計部的報導 The GAO, the General Accounting Report said that...
總統連任委員會的保險箱里 總共有三十五萬美金 there was $350,000 in the safe of the Committee to Re-Elect the President.
你一開始就知道有這么多錢嗎 Were you aware that it was that kind of funds from the very beginning?
有很多人在監視著我 A lot of people are watching me.
他們知道我知道很多事情 They know l know a lot.
那些錢都是百元美鈔嗎 Was it all in $100 bills?
有很多是的 A lot of it was.
我以為那些錢是政治獻金 l thought it was an all-purpose, political fund...
比如說請大金主吃飯的應酬費之類的 you know, for taking fat cats to dinner, things like that.
花三十五萬美金吃晚餐 $350,000 for dinners?
那些錢是如何給出去的 How was it paid out?
不是大筆大筆出去 Not in one big chunk.
他們列了張十五人名單 然后把那些錢 There was a list of 15 names and the amount of money...
分別送給列在那些名字旁邊的人 given to each person next to the name.
那份名單呢 What happened to the list?
銷毀了 lt was destroyed.
那是唯一的紀錄 lt was the only record.
別在意 這些只是我的筆記 Don't pay attention to this. This is for my memory.
我的記憶力不太好 l have a very bad memory.
我不會透露你的名字 You won't be quoted by name.
事實上 我們在出報前會確認資訊 ln fact, we get confirmations before we print anything.
我不確定那些錢 l can't be... positive that that money
是用在水門案的 你懂嗎 was used for the break-in, you understand?
我懂 Yes, l do.
可是大家都很擔心 -But, people sure are worried.
誰很擔心 -Which people?
我想你可以幫我確認錢的去向 Think you could help me with the disbursement of money...
到底有多少人牽涉在內 in terms of the number of people that were involved? How many?
大概有五個人 我不知道他們的名字 A group of them. About five. l don't know their names.
史隆先生有在里面嗎 Would Mr. Sloan know?
給你 Here
-他有鞱 -我不想再說了 好嗎 -Would he---l don't want to say anymore, okay?
再一下子就好 l won't be much longer.
你可以幫我確認一下錢的部分嗎 l wondered if you could just help me a little bit about...
我們得到了不同版本的數目 the money. We hear all kinds of figures.
-數字真的很大 -多大是很大 -There's so much of it. -How much is "so much"?
在兩天內有六百萬美金進來 ln one two-day period, $6 million came in.
-六百萬 -六百萬現金 -Six! -Six million, cash.
我不知道該放在哪里 We didn't know where to put it all.
我以為那些錢是合法取得的 我是那么想的 l thought it was all legal. l mean, l guess l did until...
直到水門案爆發 我記得高登拿走了好多的錢 after the break-in when l remembered Gordon got so much of it.
這是力迪先生嗎 -This is Mr. Liddy?
這一切真的很腐敗 -lt's all so rotten.
而且情況越來越糟 lt's getting worse.
我唯一關心的就是休史隆 And the only one l care about is Hugh Sloan.
他老婆本來說如果他不挺身而出 His wife was going to leave him if he didn't stand up and
要離開他 do what was right.
所以他就辭職了 So, he quit.
我在想 l was wondering...
休史隆現在會不會被設計 if Hugh Sloan was being set up
變成約翰米契爾的代罪羔羊 now as a fall guy for John Mitchell.
你覺得呢 What do you think?
如果你們可以逮到約翰米契爾 那就太好了 lf you guys could get John Mitchell, that would be beautiful.
咖啡已經冷了 Coffee's cold.
有沒有證據證明 米契爾先生的助理 ls there any evidence that... any of Mr. Mitchell's assistants...
有參與這個案子 were part of this?
我手上有所有的證據 l had all the evidence.
可是都被銷毀了 我不知道是誰干的 lt was destroyed. l don't know who destroyed it.
我想高登銷毀了很多文件 -l think Gordon did a lot of shredding.
有明確的證據嗎 -Hard evidence?
我不能證明 Well, l can't say that it would positively prove
竊案是他們設計的 that they planned the break-in...
可是應該八九不離十 but it would come pretty close.
能告訴我任何事嗎 Can you tell me anything
到底是誰拿了錢 anything about who got the money?
這方面我們找到幾個消息來源 可是目前還沒有進展 We have... had some help on this from a couple of sources...
這就算是形式上的確認了 and this is a way of confirming it.
我不想讓你覺得 l don't want you to feel that you're in a position...
自己泄漏了姓名 where you have to disclose names.
我可以只問姓名縮寫 l can just ask you initials...
這樣的話你就不算是泄漏資訊 and then that way you're not divulging any information.
我們有些頭緒 不知道這樣可不可以 We have some idea. Would that be all right?
這當中有姓M的嗎 Was there an "M"?
你可以點頭或搖頭嗎 Can you just nod either way?
涉入的層級很高嗎 Did it go that high up?
L L? "L"?
我不想再說了好嗎 l don't want to say any more, okay?
我很抱歉 l'm sorry. You said "L"...
你是說L嗎 我被搞混了 or...l get confused.
我們可以確認之前的事情嗎 Could we just go back for a second?
在六天之內 總共有六百萬美金進帳 ln one six-day period, over $6 million came in.
你不會相信那個女人說的 You wouldn't believe what was going on inside that woman.
她透露了很多事情 The stuff was just ready to pour out.
我續了好幾杯的咖啡 l'm pouring down cups of coffee trying to get it out of her...
直到她把我趕出去 before she throws me out of the house.
-好 把筆記給我看 -這些就是我的筆記 -Give me your notes so---These are the notes.
-這些是你的筆記 -是的 記在餐巾紙跟火柴盒上 -These are the notes? -l've got stuff on napkins, matchbooks--
她去倒咖啡的時候 我躲在廁所寫得 l'm writing on the back of them while she's getting coffee.
-我是個走路的籃子 -你瘋了 -l'm a walking litter basket! -You're crazy.
你如果喝了二十杯咖啡 也會瘋掉的 You'd be crazy, too, if you were operating on 20 cups of coffee.
給我可以寫得東西 Could you give me something l can get down?
我有 統統都有 l got it. l got it all. Okay. Write.
-米契爾是主導人物 -等等 -Mitchell was in control. -Wait a minute.
-米契爾有手下 -幾個人 -There were men working under Mitchell---How many?
我不知道 l don't know how many,
可是米契爾的手下分到錢 but the men working under Mitchel received the money from the slush fund.
多少錢 Do we know how much money?
好幾百萬 We're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars.
這些人是錢的去向的關鍵 And these men are the key to what that money was used for.
那個女人簡直是嚇壞了 Boy, that woman was paranoid.
我開始懷疑涉入這個案子的層級有多高 At one point, l suddenly wondered how high up this thing goes...
后來被她影響 and her paranoia finally got to me.
我開始害怕電視臺 l thought what we had was so hot,
隨時可能來搶這條新聞 that any minute CBS or NBC... would come in and take the story away.
你們兩個都瘋了 她害怕的是約翰米契爾 You're both paranoid.She's afraid of John Mitchell,
而你害怕的是華特康凱 她說了些什么 you're afraid of Walter Cronkite.-Can we go back to what she said?
對 -Right.
這里 L P跟M Here. "L," "P," and "M."
-什么意思 -L P跟M -What do you mean? -lt's "L," "P," and "M".
-她只給我名字縮寫 -縮寫 -She'd only give initials. -lnitials?
就是米契爾手下的 The initials are the name of the men
名字縮寫 L P跟M that worked under Mitchell. "L," "P," and "M."
沒辦法問到名字嗎 You couldn't get the names?
如果可以的話我早就問到了 lf l could've gotten the names,
我可是想盡辦法問她話 l would've gotten the names! l'm with the woman, trying to get anything l can.
L P跟M She said "L," "P," and "M," that's all she would give me...
這就是她說的 幫米契爾工作的人 are the people who worked under Mitchell.
她還有提到米契爾的事情 She said something about Mitchell.
-她恨他 -她說什么 She hates him.
她說 "如果你們可以逮到 She said, "John Mitchell...."lf you guys
約翰米契爾 那就太好了" could get John Mitchell, that would be beautiful."
這里寫得是什么 你寫了史隆什么 Wait a minute, what's this here? What are you writing about Sloan?
-史隆負責委員會的財務 -他的老婆怎么了 "Sloan was the treasurer of the Committee to Re-Elect.
他的老婆懷孕了 叫他辭職 "His wife is pregnant and she made Sloan quit because apparently... "
因為他不想牽涉其中 he no longer wanted to be a part of it."
-我們得去找史隆 -好 記起來 We've got to go see Sloan.
-好 -現在我們得到什么資訊 Okay. Make a note of it. So, what have we got?
-什么 -火柴盒呢 Where's that matchbook?
-這里 L P跟M -L P跟M -Here. -"L," "P," and "M." Okay, "L," "P," and "M."
-可能是拉盧或是力迪 -是力迪 -"L" could be La Rue. lt could be Liddy. -"L" is Liddy.
-為什么 -她說的 -How do we know that? -Because she said it.
在這里 她說竊案發生的時候 Right here. She said, "At the time of the break-in...
錢四處散落 "there was so much money floating around..."
高登拿了很大一筆錢 that l know Gordon got part of it."
所以我問她是不是高登力迪 她說是 So l said, "You mean Gordon Liddy?" She said, "Yes."
-所以L是力迪 -對 So, "L" is Liddy. Okay, that leaves "P" and "M."
-好 那就只剩下P跟M -P有可能是帕金森 "P" could be...
-也有可能是波特 有可能是鞱 -等一等 Parkinson. lt could be Porter. lt could be--
上禮拜我們跟一個人談過 Wait a minute! There was a guy once. There was a guy we talked to last week.
他不是說有個叫巴特波特的人 Didn't he say that there was a Bart Porter...
是委員會的成員之一嗎 who at one time was a member of the Committee to Re-Elect?
波特被大陪審團傳訊 Porter was called before the Grand Jury investigation.
P一定是波特 P有可能是波特 So "P" is definitely Porter. "P" could be Porter.
P是波特 L是力迪 剩下M "P" is Porter, "L" is Liddy. All that leaves is "M"!
M有可能是麥可德 "M" could be McCord? That's out.
也有可能是麥迪恩 lt could be Mardian.
也有可能是麥古德 lt could be...
我覺得應該是麥古德 Magruder! -l think it's Magruder.
我也覺得是他 l think it's Magruder, too. -Why do you think it's Magruder?
-你為什么這么想 -他是米契爾之后位階最高的人 Because he was second in command under Mitchell.
為什么你覺得是麥古德 Why do you think it's Magruder?
因為他曾經 Because at one time he was a temporary head...
在米契爾之前 擔任過委員會臨時主席 of the Committee to Re-Elect, before Mitchell.
我們得讓簿記員說出 l don't want a cookie.
那個人是麥古德 We've got to get that bookkeeper to say it was Magruder.
我們沒有提到M Never get her to say anything about "M."
回去想辦法讓她說出口 We have got to go back there and try to get her to say it.
如果我們可以找出人名 就可以知道 lf we could make names of the initials...
委員會付錢給那些竊賊 then we'll know the people at CREEP who paid off the burglars.
至少知道錢被誰拿走 We'll at least know who got the money.
大陪審團今天做出的彈劾 The indictments that came down from the Grand Jury today...
只有 stopped...
五個竊賊 杭特跟力迪而已 with the five burglars, Hunt and Liddy.
卡爾 我們得回去讓簿記員 Carl, we have got to go back there and get that bookkeeper...
說出真正的名字 而不是縮寫 to say who the names are and not initials.
她不會說的 She ain't going to give it to you...
我跟她耗了六個小時 because l was with the woman for six hours.
-我們再試試看 -你得軟硬兼施 -We have to try. -Then you'll have to trick her, threaten her.
-她不會說的 -你知道我們應該怎么做嗎 -She's not going to do it. -Wait a minute.-You know what we could do?
做什么 -What?
-我們回去找她鞱 -嗯 -Listen, we go back there... -Yeah.
-然后你問她P代表誰 -好 -...and you ask her who "P" is. -Yeah.
然后我說"不 不 不" And then l say, "No, don't worry about it... "
我們知道P是波特 我故意不說出來 we know 'P' is Porter." l just bury it.
-等一下 我問她P是誰 -對 Okay. Now, wait a minute. l say to her, "Who is 'P'?"
然后你跟我說 And then you say to me--
我說不對 我們已經知道P是波特 I say, "No, we know 'P' is Porter."
-你想要釣她的話 -對 -You mean, you try to fake her out? -Right.
-如果她否認 -我們就完了 -And what if she denies it? -We're screwed.
-所以呢 -如果她沒有否認 我們就成功了 -So? -But if she doesn't, we know we got it.
-我們知道P就是波特 -試試看 -We know "P" is Porter. -Try it.
-嗨 -他們會看見你們的 Hi. They'll see you.
如果你讓我們進去就不會 Not if you let us in, they won't.
-我是鮑伯伍華德 -他們會看到你的車 And l'm Bob Woodward.-They'll see your car.
我們把車停在街角 -We parked around the corner.
你們已經有了答案是吧 You have answers for everything, don't you?
如果沒有我們就不會來了 lf we did, we wouldn't be here.
你們已經寫下我說的話 You wrote what l told you.
不 我們沒有寫下你的名字 沒有人知道是你 Oh, no. Not your name. No one knows it was you.
可以告訴我們錢被誰拿走嗎 Could you tell us who got the money?
一共拿走了多少錢 And how much?
意思是如果有兩萬五千美金的話 你會怎么做嗎 You mean like, "What did you do with the $25,000, lady?"
什么 What?
財政部最近出的一個笑話 Little jokes they're making down at Finance these days.
他們說如果大家相信 史丹思跟史隆是無辜的 lf people are to be convinced... that Stans and Sloan are innocent,
那么我們的報導一定得精確 你可以幫助我們 then our reporting must be precise...and you can help us.
-P是誰 -我們知道P是波特 Who is "P"?"P" we know, is Porter.
你提到兩萬五千美金 所以波特拿了這么多錢嗎 You said, "$25,000." ls that how much Porter got?
還是更多 Was it more?
比五萬美金還多嗎 Was it more than $50,000?
麥古德是唯一拿了錢的M嗎 Was Magruder the only "M" to receive money?
是誰告訴你們波特的事情 Who told you about Porter?
我想要討論一下 l'd like to move on now to
水門竊案的事情 the subject of the break-in at the Watergate...
還有這個案件牽扯出的爭議部分 and the controversies that keep coming up out of that.
最近有很多報導 lt has recently, very recently been reported now, that...
理查克萊丹斯特 司法部長 some documents were torn up...
指出總統連任委員會里 有些重要文件被摧毀 at the Committee to Re-Elect the President.
你們開始調查那些被銷毀的文件? Are you investigating the tearing up of those documents--
我想這件事是從 《華盛頓郵報》的報導而起的 Well, l think that came out in a story in the Washington Post.
-是 -我想調查的結果 -Yes. -l think the investigation...
大概是有始以來 that has just concluded itself has probably been one of the most intensive
司法部跟聯邦調查局 涉入最深的其中一次 that the Department of Justice and the FBl has ever been involved in.
總共有一千五百個人被詢問 Some 1,500 persons were interviewed...
一千八百條線索在追蹤 三百三十個探員參與 1,800 leads were followed, 333 agents were involved...
花了一萬四千個小時 14,000 man-hours...
五十九個聯邦調查員中 就有五十一個參與 fifty-one of the 59 FBl field officers were involved.
我想這是國家司法正義的表彰 And that, l think... is a great credit to justice in this country.
你知道被摧毀的文件嗎 Did you know that documents had been destroyed?
不 我不知道 No, l did not.
這些舒適迷人的房子跟街道 All these neat little houses and all these nice little streets.
很難相信 lt's hard to believe that something's wrong
在這些房子里竟然發生問題 in some of those little houses.
不 沒有的事 No, it isn't.
哈? 我是卡爾伯恩斯坦 Hello, l'm Carl Bernstein.
哈? 我是鮑伯伍華德 Bob Woodward.
我們想跟史隆先生談一下 We'd just like to talk to Mr. Sloan for a couple of minutes.
-他現在在休息 -你是史隆夫人嗎 -He's resting right now. -Are you Mrs. Sloan?
-你們是《華盛頓郵報》的記者嗎 -是的 -You're the two from the Post, aren't you? -Yes.
這是間誠實的房子 This is an honest house.
所以我們才想跟你丈夫談談 That's why we'd like to see your husband.
看到可能會有無辜的人被控犯罪 Faced with certain criminal charges that might be brought...
我們覺得 against some people that are innocent,
這是為了他好 we just feel that--lt's really for his benefit.
不是 No, it's not.
不 No,
-對 不是 -黛博拉 it's not. Deborah,
-請他們進來 -謝謝 tell them to come in. Thanks.
-嗨 我是卡爾伯恩斯坦 -嗨 我是休史隆 -Hi, Carl Bernstein. -How do you do? Hugh Sloan.
-我是鮑伯伍華德 -你好 -Bob Woodward. -How are you doing?
很感激你愿意跟我們談談 l appreciate you giving us the time.
你知道的 You know, the reason that we're here, basically...
我們之所以過來的原因 是因為我們跟某些人談過 is that we've talked to certain people who...
他們指出 你之所以跟委員會有關系 have indicated that the reason you left the Committee...
是因為你想退出 was because you no longer want to be part of it.
或許這當中有個合理的解釋 Yeah, right. Maybe there's a legitimate explanation...
為什么錢會落到 力迪跟米契爾助理手中 why the money was handed to Liddy and Mitchell's aides.
請試著了解 Try to understand this.
-我是個共和黨員 -我也是 -l'm a Republican. -l am, too.
我相信理查尼克森 Well, l believe in Richard Nixon.
我在白宮待了四年 我老婆也一樣 l worked in the White House for four years and so did my wife.
六月十七日發生的事情 What happened on June 17,
我想總統并不知情 l don't think the President knew anything about.
有沒有可能當中有人知道 ls it possible that some of his people might have known?
我不確定 l'm not sure about that.
你覺得審判不會問出事實嗎 Do you think the truth will ever come out at the trial?
-這不是我不確定的事情 -為什么 -That's another thing l'm not sure about. -Why?
很顯然的 有人對檢察官說謊 Well, obviously, because certain people lied to the prosecutor.
沒有 從來沒人叫我們不能多說 No. We were never told flat out, "Don't talk! "
可是大家都很清楚 But the message was clear, though.
換句話說 他們的沉默 代表這當中有官官相護 ln other words, by their very silence, there was a cover-up.
他們沒有叫我們說出實情 Well, they didn't urge us to come forward and tell the truth.
他們 是指白宮嗎 "They," meaning the White House?
如果委員會不是獨立機構 Well, the Committee's not an independent operation.
一切對白宮來說就該很清楚 Everything's cleared with the White House.
我想聯邦調查局或檢察官 應該很了解 And l don't think the FBl or the prosecutors understand that.
有關金錢的那篇報導 That report on the cash...
-委員會保險箱里的三十五萬 in the CREEP safe, that $350,000?
-更多 還要更多 數字正確嗎 -No, more. -Was that a correct figure?
正確的數字應該接近一百萬 No, it was closer to $1,000,000.
身為財務主管 你可以挪用那些錢 And, as treasurer, you could release those funds?
只有在被命令的時候 When so ordered.
我們不知道命令你的人是誰 We don't know the names of the people who could order you.
-我們知道一共有四個人 -不對 有五個人 -We just know that there were four. -No, there were five.
-五個 -米契爾 史丹思跟麥古德 Mitchell, Stans, Magruder, they're obvious.
發生什么事了 白宮應該派了監督的人 -There had to be a White House overseer.
有 是卡爾森 -Yeah, Colson.
不 卡爾森太聰明了 No, Colson's too smart
他不會讓自己牽扯進這種事情 to get involved directly with anything like that.
赫德曼 lt's Haldeman.
對 Right?
我不會說出另外兩個人 l won't talk about the other two.
他們倆個都是白宮人員嗎 They both worked at the White House?
其中一個是 另一個不在華盛頓 One of them did, the other one's not in Washington.
我只能說到這里 But that's all l'll say.
-康巴哈 -尼克森的私人律師 -Kalmbach. -Nixon's personal lawyer.
-對 -是嗎 -Right?
是尼克森的律師嗎 -Nixon's personal lawyer?
我無可奉告 抱歉 l can't say anything. l'm sorry.
-嗯鞱 -寶寶的預產期是什么時候 -Well.... -When's the baby due?
快了 下個月 Soon. Next month.
-你會待在這里嗎 -不會 -Are you going to stay here? -No, l don't think so.
決定要去哪兒了嗎 Decided where you're gonna go?
我在找民間企業的工作 不過 l've been looking for a job in the private sector, but it's....
進行的不太順利 我的名字太常出現在報紙上了 lt's very hard. My name's been in the papers too much.
你知道唯一一件我不確定的事 是什么嗎 You know, one thing l'm just still not completely clear about?
我不知道錢是怎么分出去的 When you handed out the money,
到底是怎么做到的 how did that work, exactly?
用很糟的方式 Badly.
我想鮑伯的問題是 整件事的過程是什么 l think what Bob means is, that ordinarily, what was the procedure?
很固定 我打電話給司法部的米契爾 他會跟我說 Routine. l'd call John Mitchell over at the Justice Department.
-"把錢送出去吧" -一切都是用口頭通知 He'd say, "Go ahead, give out the money." This was all done verbally?
對 Yes.
好 我們知道有五個人控制那筆錢 Okay, we know there were five men who controlled the slush fund.
-米契爾 史丹思跟麥古德 -我們已經知道三個人 Mitchell, Stans, and Magruder. Yeah, those three we've got. And all three
-是兩個消息來源透露的 -另外兩個呢 have been named by two sources. What about the other two?
-康巴哈 -這個相當確定 就是康巴哈 -Kalmbach. -We're pretty sure of Kalmbach.
對了 我們最好等到 五個人名都確定再說吧 Maybe we better wait until we get all five, huh?
-確定米契爾有參與嗎 -我們知道他在擔任 Certain on Mitchell?
司法部長的時候 把錢拿給力迪先生 We know that he approved payments to Liddy while he was Attorney General.
-有兩個以上消息來源嗎 -對 -You've got more than one source? -Yes, Harry.
-他們是誰 -史隆 -Who are they? -Sloan.
史隆跟誰 Sloan and who else?
還有一個在司法部工作的人 There's another guy at Justice who so far won't confirm...
他不愿確認控制錢的人 我們還在努力當中 the names of the others who control the fund. We're working on it.
-深喉嚨呢 -他不是消息來源 -What about Deep Throat? -He's not a source on this.
但是他們有要求嗎 But do any of them have an axe?
不管是個人 政治上或性方面 No. Personal, political, sexual.
米契爾那邊有什么資訊呢 Is there anything at all on Mitchell?
我們可以用他們的名字嗎 No. -Then can we use their names? -No.
-不行 -該死 到底有誰 God damn it! When is somebody
愿意透露姓名 gonna go on the record in this story?
你們要寫得報導 You guys are about to write a story
指控前任司法部長 that says the former Attorney General...
也就是美國最高司法首長 是個騙子 the highest ranking law enforcement officer in this country is a crook!
最好確定你們的消息是正確的 Just be sure you're right.
艾塞克斯飯店 我可以為您服務嗎 Essex House, may l help you?
請接約翰米契爾 John Mitchell.
是的 Yes?
我是《華盛頓郵報》的卡爾伯恩斯坦 Sir, this is Carl Bernstein of the Washington Post...
抱歉這個時間打擾你 and l'm sorry to disturb you at this hour.
我們明天即將刊登一篇報導 Tomorrow we're running a story in the paper...
我們認為鞱 應該給你機會做回應 and we just think that you should have a chance to comment on it.
報導寫了什么 What does it say?
約翰米契爾在擔任 "John N. Mitchell, while serving...
美國司法部長期間 "as United States Attorney General..."
私下掌控了一個秘密現金基金 personally controlled a secret cash fund...
-用來搜集民主黨的情報鞱 -老天爺 "that was used to gather information about the Democrats...
根據水門調查案的消息來源表示 "according to"Jesus."...sources involved in the Watergate investigation."
-我的天啊 -從1971年春天開始 -Jesus. -"Beginning in the spring of 1971 ...
整整有一年的時間 一直到他離開司法部 "almost a year before he left the Justice Department...
轉任尼克森總統的競選主任為止 "to become President Nixon's campaign manager...
三月一日 米契爾親自批準從戶頭把錢領出 "on March 1, Mitchell personally approved withdrawals from the fund."
你們要登這些胡說八道的東西 All that crap. You're putting it in the paper?
-這個嘛鞱 -我完全否認 -Well---lt's all been denied.
告訴你們的發行人凱蒂葛罕 You tell your publisher,
如果她膽敢登那則報導的話 tell Katie Graham...
到時候她的奶頭 就會被套上大鈴鐺 she's going to get her tit caught in the big ringer if that's published.
我的天啊 這是我聽過最病態的事了 Christ, that's the most sickening thing l ever heard.
-先生 我想請問鞱 -幾點了 Sir, l was just wondering if l could ask you some questions?
十一點半 -What time is it? -lt's 1 1 :30, sir.
十一點半 1 1.30? ls it morning or night?
-是早上還是晚上 -晚上十一點半 lt's 1 1 :30 at night, sir.
先生 連任委員會剛針對報導 Sir, the Committee to Re-Elect has issued a statement to our story...
發表了一篇聲明 可是這當中有些問題 but there are just a couple of questions--
委員會同意讓你們登這篇報導 Did the Committee tell you to go ahead and publish the story?
你們主導了一場很精彩的球賽 You fellows have got a great ballgame going.
等他們結束之后 我們會針對你們一一做報導 As soon as you're done, we're going to do a story on all of you.
-先生 只想請問幾個問題鞱 -早上再打給我律師 Sir, there's just a couple of questions--Call my law office in the morning.
你沒有想親自回答的問題 There's no question you properly identified yourself?
他劈頭就那樣說 He said it right off the top.
米契爾知道他在跟記者說話嗎 Mitchell know he was talking to a reporter?
知道 不過我想我把他吵醒了 Yeah, but l think l woke him up.
-有記下筆記嗎 -一字不漏 -Get good notes? -Verbatim.
他真的那樣說葛罕女士嗎 He really said that about Mrs. Graham?
把"奶頭"刪掉登上去 Well, l'd cut the words "her tit" and print it.
-為什么 -這是個家族報紙 Why? This is a family newspaper.
有一次我在采訪 You know, once when l was reporting...
詹森總統的幕僚給了我一個字 Lyndon Johnson's top guy gave me the word.
當時他們正在找 伊格胡佛的接班人選 They were looking for a successor for J. Edgar Hoover.
我寫了那篇報導 登報的那天詹森開了記者會 l wrote it and the day it appeared, Johnson held a press conference...
任命胡佛終身擔任聯邦調查局局長 and appointed Hoover head of the FBl for life.
他宣布完消息之后轉向他的部下 When he was done, he turned to his top guy...
然后他說"打電話給班布雷迪 跟他說去你媽的" and the President said, "Call Ben Bradlee and tell him, 'Fuck you."'
然后大家就說 你做到了 班 Then everybody said, "You did it, Ben. You screwed up.
你搞砸了 你害我們得跟胡佛糾纏一輩子 "You stuck us with Hoover forever."
我的確是搞砸了 l screwed up,
可是我沒有錯 but l wasn't wrong.
關于深喉嚨的事情 你能告訴我多少 How much can you tell me about Deep Throat?
你需要知道多少 How much do you need to know?
你信任他嗎 Do you trust him?
信任 Yeah.
我不能幫我的記者跑新聞 所以我得相信他們 l can't do the reporting for my reporters which means l have to trust them.
而我痛恨相信別人 And l hate trusting anybody.
登吧 寶貝 Run that, baby.
米契爾掌控 共和黨機密基金
根據《華盛頓郵報》報導 The Washington Post reported that
前任司法部長 while still in office as Attorney General...
約翰米契爾在任內私自掌控 一項機密的共和黨帳戶 John Mitchell had personally controlled a secret Republican fund.
米契爾否認涉案 同時譴責該篇報導荒謬 Mitchell denied any such involvement and called the story ludicrous.
這項新指控也引起 副總統安格紐關注 The new charge also brought a response from Vice President Agnew...
他在坦帕停留時做出以下回應 at his stop in Tampa.
我完全信任米契爾 l have full confidence in Mr. Mitchell...
同時也對共和黨員充滿信心 and in the people in the Republican organization.
我認為 And l think that that kind of unattributed report...
這種不確定的報導 在這種時候是沒有幫助的 at a time like this is counterproductive.
我們必須謹記在心 了解到那些刊登報導的人 We must bear in mind that those who published it...
已經顯露他們對反對黨的支持 have already shown their sympathy for the other ticket.
一群年輕的支持者 A band and some young cheerleaders....
不算是真正否認的否認 All non-denial denials.
他們不相信我們報社的名號 可是沒有說報導不實 They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate.
你了解你剛說的話嗎 l mean, did you understand one thing he was saying?
我不懂的是 什么是真的否認 What l can't figure out is, what is a real denial?
如果他們開始叫我們騙子 Well, if they start calling us goddamn liars,
那么我們最好開始為自己辯護 we better start circling the wagons.
他們什么時候會開始這樣做 When do you think they'll start doing that?
等他們從坦帕回來以后 When they get out of Tampa.
喬 你們聯邦調查局到底怎么回事 Joe, come on. What's going on with you guys at the FBl?
我一直在找你 l've been trying to get to you for weeks.
你的秘書說你沒進辦公室 Your secretary says you're not in.
昨天晚上我打電話給你 你說你不能說話 Last night l called, you said you couldn't talk...
今天早上米契爾的報導一上架 and this morning, as soon as our Mitchell story hits the stands...
你就馬上打給我說要見我 為什么呢 you call me and say you've got to see me right away. Why?
你們給我們惹了大麻煩 Look, you guys have been causing big trouble at the Bureau.
為什么 Why?
你們幾乎是一字不改的 引用我們探員的談話 Our reports are showing up in your paper almost verbatim.
你一直都在正確的方向上 除了米契爾的事 l mean, you've really been on the mark, except for Mitchell.
我們無法確定 Now, we didn't have that...
-是他掌控那個帳戶的 -對 -that he controlled the funds. -Right.
我們的探員一直在調查 不過現在我們準備重新檢視 Our agents have been busting ass...
看看是否有遺漏的部分 but we're gonna go back now and see if we've missed anything.
我不了解的是 What l don't understand is all the people...
聯邦調查局根本沒有約談 who might know details of the bugging operation... t
那些知道細節的人 he FBl hasn't even talked to.
你們為什么要在委員會總部訪問 And why have you conducted your interviews of CREEP personnel...
委員會的人員 at CREEP headquarters...
為什么不去他們家里 這樣他們可以暢談 instead of at their homes where they might feel freer to talk?
喬 等一等 Joe, wait a minute.
為什么委員會的訪談 Why have the interviews at CREEP always been conducted...
都是在委員會律師的陪同下進行的 within the presence of the lawyer who works for CREEP?
我不知道 Look,
你知道我不能代表局處回答問題 you know l can't answer for the whole Bureau.
-拜托 -我只是奉命行事 -Oh, come on, l'm just---l do what l'm told.
我依照命令辦事 l followed my orders. Period.
什么命令 What orders?
伍華德 Wait. Woodward!
等等 Wait!
鮑伯 Bob!
真是太突然了 太突然了 Out of the blue. Out of the blue.
今天早上我接到情報 要我打電話給艾利斯席普利 Okay, this morning l get a tip to call a guy by the name of Alex Shipley...
他是田納西副司法部長 who is now the Assistant Attorney General of Tennessee.
那個提供我情報的人說 Now, the guy told me, that called me, that said....
席普利在1971年夏天 He said that Shipley was asked in the summer of 1971 ...
被一個叫做唐諾席格提的 軍中同胞邀請 by an old army buddy, a Donald Segretti...
加入尼克森助選律師團 to join a group of other lawyers...
幫忙攻擊民主黨候選人 for Nixon's campaign to sabotage the Democratic candidates.
可以的時候左轉 去我家 Listen, make a left when you can. We'll go to my place.
攻擊民主黨候選人 對 Sabotage Democratic candidates? That's right.
我今天得打些電話 Now, l was able to make a couple of calls today...
而且我拿到席格提的旅行紀錄 and l got Segretti's records for the year....
1971到72年份的 His travel records for the years 1971-'72.
聯邦調查局知道鞱 你剛說左轉還是右轉 左轉 Does the FBl know about.... -Did you say left or right? -Left!
我們得拿到那些資料 We're going to my place. We gotta go over the records.
聯邦調查局知道席格提的事嗎 Does the FBl know about Segretti?
他們調查過席格提 發現他沒涉案 The FBl interrogated Segretti and
所以就沒有繼續調查 found out he wasn't involved in the break-in so they dropped it.
-他們沒有深入調查他 -他在哪里 They didn't follow through on it.-Where is he?
加州 -He's in California.
-天啊 你看 -什么 -Jesus, look at this. -What?
席格提穿梭全國不下數十次 Segretti crisscrossed the country at least a dozen times.
他總是停留在有民主黨初選的城市 He only stayed in cities where there were Democratic primaries.
竊案只是抹黑選戰的一部分 Well, if the break-in is just one incident in a campaign of sabotage...
其實一切早在水門案前一年就開始 that began a whole year before Watergate...
竊案終于合邏輯了 這實在是太瘋狂了 then for the first time, the break-in makes sense. This isn't so crazy.
一切不是從竊案開始的 This thing didn't start with the bugging at the headquarters.
早在竊案之前 席格提就已經進行一年了 Segretti was doing this a year before the bugging.
在尼克森把穆斯基打敗前 他的民調在穆斯基之后 And a year before, Nixon wasn't slaughtering Muskie.
在穆斯基自我毀滅之前 He was running behind Muskie, before Muskie self-destructed.
如果他是自我毀滅 lf he self-destructed.
-嗨 是唐諾席格提嗎 -是的 -Hi. Donald Segretti? -That's right.
我是《華盛頓郵報》的卡爾伯恩斯坦 l'm Carl Bernstein from the Washington Post.
嗨 Hi.
請問有何貴干 What can l do for you?
我的報社派我來 Well, my paper just sent me out here
說服你出面 to try to persuade you to go on the record.
為什么是我 Why me?
因為你是尼克森選戰主任秘書 l guess because you were the head coordinator...
專攻民主黨 of Nixon's sabotage campaign against the Democrats.
-卡爾 要喝點咖啡嗎 -你真厲害 看穿我的心 -Carl, you want some coffee? -You read my mind.
卡爾 告訴我 Carl, tell me something.
你覺得選舉主秘的工作是什么 What do you imagine the head coordinator does?
我想基本上 Well, l guess basically
你應該負責雇用像你這樣的人 you're involved in recruiting other people like yourself...
-也就是其他律師 -律師 other lawyers.
比如說艾利斯席普利 -Lawyers? -Like Alex Shipley.
我絕對沒有做出任何暴力或不法的事 l made it clear that l would not do anything violent or illegal.
不法的事是什么意思 What do you mean by illegal?
水門案 這整件竊案真是太可怕了 Watergate, l mean, that's.... The whole bugging. That's horrendous!
那你們做些什么呢 And what kind of stuff do you guys do then?
一些瑣碎的事情 Nickel-and-dime stuff.
瑣事 附加一些智慧在當中 Stuff. Stuff with a little wit attached to it.
你是說你用穆斯基的信紙送出消息 You mean, when you sent out on Muskie's stationery that...
宣稱亨菲利議員召妓的事嗎 Senator Hubert Humphrey was going out with call girls?
聽著 這對男人的形象有幫助 Listen, if anything, it helped the man's image.
那穆斯基的信紙上 What was the one on Muskie's stationery that you sent out...
"史普考杰克森將有個雜種"的訊息 that said that Scoop Jackson was
又是什么意思呢 having a bastard child?
有時候比較夸張一點 這不能記起來 So, sometimes it got up to a quarter. Off the record.
我想當中最有趣的其中一封 就是肯努克的信 l think one of the most interesting ones was the Canuck letter.
怎樣有趣 What about it?
拜托 你上面寫說 穆斯基毀謗加拿大人 Come on. Where you claimed that Muskie slurred the Canadians.
我沒有那樣寫 No, l didn't write that.
-你知道是誰寫得嗎 -等你們登出報導的時候 Do you know who did?
我就會知道是誰了 Carl, when you guys print it in the papers, then l'll know.
真聰明 唐諾 Smart guy, Donald.
你一點都不笨 You're no dummy.
我是個律師 卡爾 l'm a lawyer, Carl.
我是個律師 l'm a lawyer.
我是個很優秀的律師 l'm a good lawyer...
我大概不會落到坐牢 and l'll probably wind up going to jail
同時被取消律師執照的下場 and being disbarred...
我不知道我到底做了什么壞事 and l don't know what l did that was so goddamn awful.
讓我告訴你 所有的事情都不是我的點子 l'll tell you something. None of this was my idea.
我沒有主動要求去做那份工作 l didn't go looking for the job.
這很重要 Well, that's important.
所以夏寶去找你的 Chapin came to you.
你知道嗎 這真的很有趣 You know what?
我一直忘記你們大學時代認識 lt's funny, but l keep forgetting that you guys knew each other in college.
你跟夏寶在南加大念書時就是朋友 You were friends at SC, you and Chapin.
還有誰 Who else was there?
有我 There was me...
杜埃特 Dwight...
席格勒 Ziegler...
全部都是南加大幫的 all the USC mafia.
就是那時候你開始參加學生選舉 And that's when you got involved in meaningless student elections...
你想辦法讓自己人當選 所以在選票箱上動手腳 when you start to try to get your man in so you stuffed ballot boxes and....
你們用來形容 搞垮對手的名詞是什么 What's that term you guys use for screwing up the opposition?
-干掉鼠輩 -對 -Rat-fucking. -That's right.
你現在幫尼克森選舉的時候 You were just doing the same kind of stuff...
-就是用跟以前相同的把戲 -讓我告訴你 when you were out campaigning for President Nixon.
我們在大學做了更多糟糕的事 Let me tell you something, we did a lot of worse things in college.
讓我問你 卡爾 Look, let me ask you something, Carl.
如果你從軍中退伍 What would you have done if you were just getting out of the army...
重返睽違四年的真實世界 你會怎么做 been away from the real world for four years...
你不知道該做哪種律師 didn't know what kind of law you wanted to practice...
然后有一天接到老朋友的電話 and one day you get a call from an old friend...
問你要不要替美國總統工作 asking if you want to go to work for the President of the United States?
夏寶當時打電話給我時 擔任尼克森的任命秘書長 Chapin was the appointment secretary for Nixon when he called.
對 Yeah. Listen,
如果發生了那些事 if those sinister things really happened
我想杜埃特并不知情 l don't think Dwight knew anything about them.
-他只是奉命行事 -奉誰的命 He just did what he was told. Told by who?
今晚的主題是什么 What's the topic for tonight?
干掉鼠輩 Rat-fucking.
在我的年代 這就是欺騙 ln my day it was simply known as the double-cross.
以現在來說 ln our present context...
意思就是滲透民主黨 it means infiltration of the Democrats.
席格提不愿意出面 Segretti won't go on the record...
如果他愿意的話 他會把夏寶牽連進來 but if he would, we know he would implicate Chapin.
層級就會到白宮人員 And that would put you inside the White House.
是誰 Who?
說清楚 Be specific.
涉入的層級到底有多高 How high up?
這個你們得自己找到答案 You'll have to find that out for yourself.
我不喜歡報紙 l don't like newspapers.
我不喜歡報紙總是不夠準確 l don't care for inexactitude...
而且報導都很膚淺 and shallowness.
總統連任委員會黑金 The CREEP slush fund that financed the rat-fucking...
也就是贊助干掉鼠輩計劃的錢 這部分我們已經搞定了 we've just about got that nailed down. l don't know how--
-我不知道該怎么鞱 -可是你換了閣員 Did you change cabs?
對 Yeah.
聯邦調查局知道我們已知的部分嗎 Does the FBl know what we know?
司法部呢 Does Justice?
為什么他們都沒有動作呢 Why haven't they done anything?
如果跟竊案沒有直接關系 lf it didn't deal directly with the break-in,
他們是不會追查的 they didn't pursue.
誰叫他們不要追查的 Who told them not to?
你難道不知道自己追的 是什么事件嗎 Don't you understand what you're on to?
-米契爾知道 -米契爾當然知道 -Mitchell knew? -Of course Mitchell knew.
你以為這種大事是碰巧發生嗎 Do you think something this size just happens?
赫德曼一定也知道 Haldeman had to know, too.
我是不會透露赫德曼的事情 You'll get nothing from me about Haldeman.
席格提說的 Segretti said that--
不要把重點放在席格提身上 會模糊整件事的焦點 Don't concentrate on Segretti. You'll miss the overall.
害穆斯基丟掉競選資格的信 肯努克的信 The letter that destroyed the Muskie candidacy...
是從內部出來? the Canuck letter, did that come from inside the White-
你錯估整個局勢了 You're missing the overall.
什么局勢 But what overall?
他們害怕穆斯基 看看是誰被毀了 They were frightened of Muskie, and look who got destroyed.
他們要打敗麥高文 看看他們現在對抗的是誰 They wanted to run against McGovern. Look who they're running against.
他們監聽 They bugged,
跟蹤別人 they followed people...
故意透露假的新聞 制造假的信函 false press leaks, fake letters.
他們取消了抗議民主黨選戰的游行 They canceled Democratic campaign rallies.
他們調查民主黨員的私生活 They investigated Democratic private lives.
派間諜滲入敵營 偷竊文件等等 They planted spies, stole documents, and on and on.
別告訴我你以為 這一切都是唐諾席格提一手包辦 Now, don't tell me you think this is all the work of little Don Segretti.
聯邦調查局跟司法部都知道 The FBl and Justice know this?
-卡爾 -是 -Carl? -Yeah.
你是不是應該更常來拿留言 Why don't you pick up your messages more often?
-有香煙嗎 -有 -Right. You got a cigarette? -Yeah.
-誰是彼得泰勒 -我不知道 卡爾 Who's Pete Teller?
我自己有很大一區得顧 l haven't the slightest idea,
卡爾 Carl. l have this whole place to take care of.
來了 -Carl? -Yeah, one second.
叫他留下電話號碼 Tell him to leave his phone number next time, all right?
-好 -嗨 莎莉 Hi, Sally.
你們知道肯努克的信嗎 Listen, do you guys know about the Canuck letter?
抱歉我來晚了 Yep. l'm sorry, l'm late.
我只是想確定你們知道 信是誰寫的 l just wanted to make sure you knew who wrote it.
什么 What?
什么 你是說危害穆斯基候選資格的信 You mean the letter that sabotaged the Muskie candidacy?
好吧 過來 All right, come here.
他是什么時候告訴你的 When did he tell you this?
是 我了解 Yes,I know
得跟鮑伯講 Gotta tell Bob.
-伍華德 -卡爾 -Woodward. -What?
我有很重要的事要跟你說 One second. Very important.... Come here.
告訴他你跟我說的事 Tell him what you told me.
過來坐下 Here, sit down.
把你跟我說的一五一十告訴他 Just exactly the way you said it to me, say it to him.
肯克拉森告訴我 是他寫了那封肯努克的信 Ken Clawson told me he wrote the Canuck letter.
-那封咒罵加拿大人的信 -克拉森 The letter that said Muskie was slurring the Canadians.
白宮通訊室處的副處長 Clawson? The Deputy Director of
寫了肯努克的信 White House Communications wrote the Canuck letter.
-他什么時候告訴你的 -喝酒的時候 -When did he tell you this? -When we were having drinks.
-你們當時在哪兒 -我家 -Where were you? -My apartment.
-他什么時候說的 -兩個禮拜前 -When did you say he told you? -Two weeks ago.
他還說了什么 What else did he say?
他是不是還說了別的 想要跟你利益輸送 He didn't say anything?
他是不是說這些 Come on, you're hedging.
只是為了讓你跟他上床 You think he said it to impress you to get you to go to bed with him?
-天啊 -不 我要聽她說 -Jesus. -No, l want to hear her say it.
他是不是說這些 Do you think he said that to impress you,
只是為了讓你跟他上床 try to get you to go to bed with him?
為什么等了兩個禮拜才說 莎莉 Why did it take you two weeks to tell us this, Sally?
我想我沒有你們那么敏感 l guess l don't have the taste for the jugular you guys have.
你是說一切都是誤會 You're claiming it was all a misunderstanding?
當然 莎莉搞錯了 Absolutely. Sally's got it all wrong.
我從來沒告訴她信是我寫得 l never told her that l wrote that letter.
我們只是隨便聊聊 We were just shooting the breeze about the election.
-選舉的八卦 -她是個優秀的記者 She's an awfully good reporter.
我想她從來沒錯的那么離譜 l don't remember her getting that much wrong before, do you?
這真是一個混蛋問題 伍華德 Look, that's a real bullshit question, Woodward.
這真是空穴來風 That is a question straight out of Wichita, Kansas.
最后一個問題 Listen. One last thing.
你記得討論八卦的地點在哪兒嗎 Do you remember where this shooting the breeze took place?
哪里是什么意思 What do you mean, where?
是在餐廳 她家 還是酒吧 l mean, was it a restaurant, or her apartment, or a bar?
我完全不記得那件事 Now, look. l'd forgotten the entire incident...
不過一定不會是在她 but it most certainly wasn't in her apartment.
你記得是什么時候嗎 Do you remember when it took place?
我沒有時間 l don't have time for this. l'm a busy man.
-我很忙 -你都聽到了嗎 Did you get all that?
-他說是在酒吧還是餐廳 -他說他忘了 What did he say about meeting in a bar or restaurant?
所以他沒有否認 He said he forgot the entire incident.
又是一個不正面否認的否認 That means he didn't deny it. -That's a non-denial denial.
-空穴來風 -那的確是個混蛋問題 Wichita, Kansas? Yeah, he said that's a bullshit question, Woodward--
-你為什么會問鞱 -我知道 但我又沒捏造 l know what he said. But l'm from Wheaton, lllinois.
嘿 鮑伯 卡爾 他在電話線上 Hey, Bob, Carl. He's on the phone.
-誰 -克拉森 -Who? -Clawson!
-幾線 -四線 Get over there on line 4 and transcribe this, will you? Four.
-四 -等等 -Four? wait
-四線 -好 -Four? -Okay. Yeah.
什么事 肯 Yes, Ken.
莎莉 拜托 不要告訴他們我去你家的事 Sally, for Christ's sakes, don't tell them l came to your place.
為什么 喝點小酒有什么關系 Why not? What's wrong with coming over for a drink?
就我們兩個 單獨在你家 You and me? ln your apartment?
怎么樣 Well?
我的老天爺 你把我害慘了 Jesus Christ, you just shot me down.
如果報上登出 我去你家的消息 lf that appears in the papers that l'm over at your house, having....
-你知道會有什么影響嗎 -我不知道 -Do you know what that does? -No, l don't see why.
你不知道 不知道 You don't? You don't?
又沒有什么不對 -There's nothing bad about it.
當然有啊 -Well, there sure is.
這倒好 This is just incredible.
我問心無愧 Well, l have a clear conscience.
莎莉 我有老婆 家庭 還有一只狗跟貓 Sally, l have a wife, and a family, and a dog, and a cat.
她說他去她家喝點小酒 She said that he was in her house having drinks.
我不在乎是在哪發生的 發生什么事情才是重點 Now, look, l don't care where it happened. What happened is what counts.
我們問他 他說他全忘了 When we asked him about it, he said he forgot the entire incident.
-是嗎 -肯克拉森在線上 -Yeah? -Ken Clawson on the line.
-肯克拉森在線上 -天啊 -Ken Clawson on the line. -Jesus.
肯 你好嗎 Ken. What's up, kid?
班 你看 事情就這樣發展 Ben, now, look, this whole thing that's going on over there,
我要你知道這一切 Ben... l want you to know t
我從來沒有 hat l never claimed authorship of the Canuck letter!
他說他沒有寫那封信 Says he never wrote the letter.
都是誤會一場 lt's some kind of misunderstanding, a confusion, l want you to know--
肯 肯 慢一點 你聽起來有點崩潰 Slow down, Ken. You sound frazzled.
拜托 Now, Ben, please, listen.
如果你們要登關于 lf you're going to refer to that alleged conversation with Sally Aiken...
我跟莎莉艾肯的對話 不可以說那是在她家發生的 you can't print that it took place in her apartment.
我有老婆 家庭 還有一只狗跟貓 l have a wife, and a family, and a dog, and a cat.
老婆 家庭 還有一只狗跟貓 "A wife, and a family, and a dog, and a cat."
好 肯 好的 Right, Ken, right. Yeah.
肯 我不想登你在莎莉家的事 Now, Ken, l don't want to print that you were in Sally's apartment.
-謝天謝地 -我只想知道 Thank God.
你在莎莉家說了些什么 l just want to know what you said in Sally's apartment.
-哈? -伯恩斯坦 -Hello. -Bernstein...
我剛得到聯調局消息來源的暗示 l just got a tip from our FBl source.
秘密現金是用來資助席格提的 The secret cash fund financed Segretti.
-天啊 -好 現在聽著 -Jesus. -All right. Now, listen.
夏寶雇用席格提 我們也知道赫德曼雇用夏寶 Chapin hired Segretti, we know that. And we know Haldeman hired Chapin.
赫德曼一定是第五個主導基金的人 Haldeman has to be the fifth name to control the fund.
史隆知道 Sloan knows.
我們已經知道五個主導人當中的四個 We've only got four out of the five who controlled the fund.
-第五個一定是赫德曼 -我不這么想 lt has to be Haldeman. l don't think we've got it.
我們知道第五個人是白宮高階官員 We know the fifth is a top White House official.
-沒有人說是赫德曼 -也沒有人否認啊 But no one has said it. No one has named Haldeman.
這樣還是不能證明就是赫德曼 -No one's denied it. -That still doesn't prove it was Haldeman.
如果晚上睡覺時地上沒有雪 lf you go to bed at night and there's no snow on the ground...
第二天早上醒來發現有雪 就可以確定前天晚上下了雪 when you wake up and there's snow on the ground...
雖然沒有親眼看到下雪 you can say it snowed during the night, although you didn't see it.
如果我們不能證明是赫德曼 那我們就完了 But if we can't prove the fifth man is Haldeman, we're wiped out.
選舉所有的事情都經過他的同意 Everything in that campaign is done with his approval.
我們知道赫德曼的手下都是 We know that everybody who works under Haldeman...
依照他的命令行事 does so with his knowledge.
除了總統以外 And everybody is under Haldeman, except the President.
照常理推斷是赫德曼 Common sense says it's Haldeman.
如果我們去見史隆 lf we go and see Sloan...
告訴他我們知道 and we tell him that we know that he named Haldeman
他向大陪審團提出赫德曼 to the Grand Jury....
那我們只需要得到他的確認 Then all we would need to do is have him confirm it.
對 Right.
-要那樣做嗎 -好 -Want to do it that way? -Yes.
回去找史隆吧 Let's go back and see Sloan.
我們不能現在去 因為他不在家 We can't go now 'cause he's not home yet.
他有可能不應門 He may not be answering, but he might be there.
好吧 -Hi. -Please.
我們已經把報導寫好了 我們需要你的確認 Listen, we've already written the story. We just need you to define--
-黛博拉現在在醫院鞱 -只有兩個問題 Deborah's in the hospital and my in-laws are coming--
-我們了解 -兩個問題 -Two questions? -We understand. Two questions?
用來資助水門案的現金 The cash that financed the Watergate break-in...
一共有五個人掌控那個行賄基金 five men had control of the fund.
米契爾 史丹思 麥古德 康巴哈 Mitchell, Stans, Magruder, Kalmbach.
這四個人我們已經確認 We have confirmations on those four.
-赫德曼是第五個 -我沒有透露這個消息 -We just found out Haldeman's the fifth. -l'm not your source on that.
我們只是要你確認 We're not asking you to be our source. All we're asking is to confirm it.
我不是透露赫德曼的消息來源 l'm not your source on Haldeman.
當你被大陪審團詢問時 Okay, look, when you were questioned by the Grand Jury--
你必須要說出人名來 You had to name names.
那當然 Of course, everything they asked, yes.
他們問的問題我都得回答 lf they asked you. All right if they....
如果我們的報導說 l don't know.... Say we wrote a story that said
赫德曼是第五個掌控基金的人 that Haldeman... was the fifth name to control the fund.
-我們會因此惹上麻煩嗎 -我們是錯的嗎 -Would we be in any trouble? -Would we be wrong?
讓我這樣說吧 Let me put it this way.
如果你們那樣寫 我不會有意見 l would have no problems if you wrote a story like that.
-不會 -不會 -You wouldn't? -No.
好 就這樣 -That's okay. Yeah. -Okay.
-喔 小孩生了 -是啊 我老婆生了 -Oh, you had a baby. -Yes, my wife did.
-是男孩還是女孩 -是個女孩 -Little boy or girl? -That's terrific.
-恭喜你 -謝謝 lt's a girl. -Congratulations. -Thank you.
-抱歉打擾你 -沒關系 -We're sorry to bother you. -Yeah.
-幫我們跟她說聲恭喜好嗎 -我會的 -Will you give our best to her? -l will.
伍華德跟我很好奇 Well, l think that, Woodward, and l am curious of the fact...
聯邦調查局在調查的過程中 that the FBl, in its entire inquiry, never talked to the....
為什么完全沒有調查 Or did any inquiries into the second most-powerful man to the President.
-總統底下最有權力的人 -你們不了解 You don't seem to understand.
你們不可能從我這得到赫德曼的消息 No, you get nothing about Haldeman out of me.
但我們不需要知道什么 喬 But we don't need to know anything, Joe.
明天我們要登一篇 關于聯邦調查局的報導 Tomorrow we're going with a story on the FBl.
-什么意思 -我們會在報導中提到 Now, what does that mean? And we're going to establish in that story...
你們把整個調查搞砸了 that you guys just about blew the whole investigation.
不 我們沒有錯得那么離譜 Oh, no, we didn't miss so much.
你不知道赫德曼掌控行賄基金 You didn't know Haldeman had control of the slush fund?
-我們知道 檔案里面都有紀錄 Oh, yes, we did. lt's all in our files.
沒有赫德曼的資料 Not about Haldeman.
有啊 赫德曼 約翰赫德曼 Yeah, Haldeman. John Haldeman.
看著 我很忙 我得帶孩子上床睡覺 Look, now, look, l'm very busy. l've got to go put the kids to bed.
這就是確認了 That's the confirmation right there.
等一等 等一下 他說約翰嗎 Wait a minute, wait a sec. Did he say John?
-他說赫德曼 -他說約翰赫德曼 -He said Haldeman. -He said John Haldeman.
他說以薩亞或大衛 又有什么差別 What the hell difference does it make if he said lsaiah or David?
-只有一個赫德曼 -對 There's only one Haldeman.
以薩亞或大衛不會是總統的助手 Yeah, well, lsaiah or David aren't assistants to the President.
可是總覺得證據還太薄弱 l don't know, it still feels thin.
我希望我們知道這篇報導 能不能刊登 Christ, l just wish we knew if we could print this.
又不是我們叫他們做這些事的 Now wait a minute, we didn't make them do these things...
既然他們做了 就要承擔后果 but once they did, they're fair game!
再跟我說一次報導的消息來源 我想聽 Harry, let's go over your sources again. l want to hear it.
史隆回答大陪審團的問題 Sloan told the Grand Jury. He answered everything they asked him.
他回答了所有問題 也就是一定有留下紀錄 That means there's gotta be a record somewhere.
他有跟大陪審團談過 聯邦調查局也確認了 He told the Grand Jury, the FBl confirms. What more do you need?
-你還需要什么 -我只是很愛這個國家 l happen to love this country.
我們可不要當拉垮國家的人 You know, we're not a bunch of zanies out to bring it down!
你是持相反的意見嗎 Harry, weren't you arguing the opposite way?
-不 不是 -我不敢相信 No, not at all.
-這跟其他事情沒有關系 -好了 別鬧了 All right, now hold it. One thing has nothing to do with the other.
我們將要指控赫德曼 We're about to accuse Haldeman who only happens to be...
這個人剛好是全國第二重要人物 the second-most-important man in this country...
負責調查白宮內部的犯罪官官相護 of conducting a criminal conspiracy from inside the White House.
如果我們是對的就好了 lt would be nice if we were right.
你們有確認過所有資訊嗎 Have you double-checked your sources? -Jesus.
-有 -伯恩斯坦 你確定報導是對的嗎 -Bernstein, are you sure on this story?
-當然 -伍華德 -Absolutely!-Woodward?
-我很確定 -l'm sure.
我不確定 l'm not.
感覺還是太薄弱了 lt still seems thin.
-再去找些消息來源 -到底還要 Get another source.
多少個消息來源 How many fucking sources do they think we've got?
你們確定深喉嚨不會確認嗎 Are you sure Deep Throat won't confirm?
他不會的 我告訴你了 He won't confirm, l told you that.
-司法部的那個人呢 -不行 What about the guy in Justice?
-為什么 -他就在 You can't call him. He's right next to the Grand Jury.
-我們沒有選擇 -離截稿時間只剩20分鐘 -We have no choice. lt's trouble. -lt's 20 minutes to deadline.
我不知道打電話找不找得到他 l don't even know if l can get him on the phone.
-您好 -請接副將軍辦公室 -Dr. Kissinger's office. -Deputy General's office, please.
知道他什么時候回來嗎 Do you know when you expect him back?
不知道 我想他晚上不會再回來 No, sir. l believe he's left for the evening.
你要留言嗎 等我一下好嗎 lf you'd like to leave a message.... Oh, could you hold, please?
嗨 我是卡爾 抱歉現在打擾你 Hi, this is Carl. l'm sorry to disturb you now...
我們正在做一篇報導 當中指出赫德曼是掌控基金的人 but we're going with the story
我們感到很困擾 that Haldeman was the fifth man... i
目前我們得到三個人的確認 n control of the fund and they're hassling us here.
請幫助我們 感激不盡 We've got three confirmations. lf you could help us, l'd appreciate it.
我不會說任何關于他的事 l won't say anything about Haldeman. Not ever.
我了解 我們也不想你這么做 l understand. We wouldn't want you to do that.
我們知道這是違法的 We know it's against the law for you to say anything.
如果你可以 告訴我們該不該暫緩報導 lf there's a way you could warn us to hold on the story,
我們會很感激 我很想幫你們 可是不行 we'd appreciate it. l'd really like to help you, but l can't.
我要數到十 好嗎 Look, l'm going to count to 10, all right?
如果我們應該暫緩這篇報導 lf there's any reason we should hold on the story...
在我數到十之前掛斷 hang up the phone before l get to 10.
如果報導沒問題 lf the story's all right,
就不要掛斷電話 好嗎 you just be on the phone after l get to 10, all right?
-掛斷是嗎 -沒錯 -Hang up, right? -That's right.
-可以了嗎 -可以 -You got it? -Yeah.
我要開始數了 好嗎 We're straight. All right, l'm going to start counting, okay?
-這樣可以嗎 -可以 -We all right? -Yeah.
好 我要開始數了 一 Okay, l'm counting.
二 One, two...
三 three,
四 four,
五 five...
六 six,
七 seven...
八 eight,
九 nine,
十 ten.
都了解了嗎 You got it straight now?
一切都沒問題了 Everything okay?
沒問題 Everything's fine.
伍華德 Woodward!
我們成功了 We got it.
-他做確認了 -發生什么事 -He confirmed. -What happened?
我說如果數到十你還不掛斷 那我們的報導就是正確的 l said if l get up to 10 and you don't hang up, it's solid.
-他確認了 -沒錯 -Did he confirm it? -Absolutely.
-我們得告訴布雷迪 We've got to tell Bradlee!
伯恩斯坦找到另一個消息來源了 Bernstein got another source.
司法部的人剛剛跟我們確認 The guy at Justice confirmed.
如果有疑問 那就明天再登 lf there's any doubt, we can run it tomorrow.
不用 報導是確實的 You don't have to. The story's solid. We're sure of it.
-我們很確定 -我才剛掛電話 一切都沒問題 l just got off the phone with him. lt's gold.
好 那就登吧 Okay, we go with it.
證詞指出尼克森高層幕僚 掌控秘密基金
伍德斯坦 Woodstein!
-你知道是怎么回事嗎 -不知道 -You know what it's about? -No.
史隆 在水門案之后辭去 助選會計的職務 Sloan, who resigned as campaign treasurer...
他在一場公民案件 after the Watergate break-in... showed up for a deposition
有關于選舉獻金的訴訟中 出庭做證 in the common-cause suit on...disclosure of campaign contributions,
他否認提到赫德曼 and denied naming Haldeman.
你能不能針對在大陪審團中的證詞 做些回應 Mr. Sloan, would you care to comment on testimony before the Grand Jury?
我會讓律師回答這個問題 l'd like my attorney to answer that question.
答案都是否定的 Gentlemen, the answer is an unequivocal 'no. '
史隆先生沒有在證詞中 提到赫德曼先生 Mr. Sloan did not implicate Mr. Haldeman in that testimony at all.
在他的證詞中 史隆承認 lt is in his testimony that Mr. Sloan acknowledged-
那個基金是用來做間諜活動的 that it was an espionage fund?
-沒有的事 -他有提到基金用來從事 -No, not at all. Did he mention any use of funds for espionage activity?
-任何間諜活動的事嗎 -沒有 謝謝各位 None, whatsoever. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you.
史隆也否認之前對聯邦調查局 Sloan expanded his denial to include his statements to the FBl...
以及所有聯邦機關所做的說明 and to all federal authorities. A short time later at the White House...
稍后白宮新聞秘書雷諾席格勒 News Secretary Ronald Ziegler delivered a strong attack...
強烈譴責《華盛頓郵報》 on the Washington Post.
為什么《華盛頓郵報》會這樣做 Why is the Post trying to do it?
因為這當中 You have a man...
《華盛頓郵報》的編輯 也就是班布雷迪 who is the editor of the Washington Post by the name of Ben Bradlee.
我想任何一個認真 l think anyone who would want to honestly assess...
研究過他政治偏好的人 what his political persuasions are, would...
都會很快了解到 l think come to the conclusion, quite quickly...
他不支持尼克森總統 that he is not a supporter of President Nixon.
我尊重新聞自由 l respect the free press.
但是我不尊重那種使用低劣手法 l don't respect the type of journalism...
像《華盛頓郵報》那樣做新聞的媒體 the shabby journalism that is being practiced by the Washington Post.
我只知道該報今早的報導 All l know is that the story that ran this morning...
是不正確的 而且被不只一人 is incorrect and it's been so... stated as being incorrect...
嚴正指責 不只是我 by not only me,
還有那位被影射的接受大陪審團 審判做證的主角 but by the individual... whose Grand Jury, secret Grand Jury testimony...
也鄭重否認該篇報導 they based their story on.
當事人否認他曾經做出此項證詞 And that individual has denied that he ever so testified.
席格勒聲明之后 總統競選經理 No sooner had Ziegler finished, than the President's campaign manager...
克拉克麥奎格跟記者碰面 Clark MacGregor, met with reporters.
他們使用諷刺的 第三人稱說法 Using innuendo... third-person hearsay...
毫無事實根據的指控 引用匿名消息來源 unsubstantiated charges, anonymous sources...
還下了聳動的標題 and huge, scare headlines...
《華盛頓郵報》惡意地 the Post has maliciously sought to give the appearance...
將白宮跟水門案做不必要的連接 of a direct connection between the White House and the Watergate.
不只《華盛頓郵報》知道 A charge which the Post knows...
許多調查也都證實 他們報導當中的指控是不正確的 and half a dozen investigations have found to be false.
《華盛頓郵報》是偽善的 The hallmark of the Post campaign is hypocrisy...
而且擁有雙重標準 and its celebrated double standard is today visible for all to see.
我不談赫德曼或其他人 l'm not talking to you about Haldeman or anybody else.
到底哪里出了錯 告訴我們哪里出了錯 -Then what went wrong? -Nothing. Just tell us what went wrong?
你不是說聯邦調查局 有赫德曼的資料 Didn't you say that the FBl had the information on Haldeman in the files?
我們手中有 No. -Because we have it in the notes...
之前電話訪談的紀錄 from the conversation we had on the telephone right here.
我們也跟你的老板談過 如果不給我們個解釋 We have to go talk to your boss if you don't talk to us.
你到底在說什么 我會全盤否認的 What the hell are you talking about? l'll deny everything.
我們不想讓任何人惹上麻煩 We're not trying to get anybody into trouble.
我們只是想知道自己是不是出了錯 We're just trying to find out if we made some errors.
如果是我們的錯 我們就不會繼續報導 lf we made a mistake, then we'll come off the story.
-我們不想放棄這篇報導鞱 -告訴我們是不是搞砸了 Just tell us if we're wrong.
-你難道不了解嗎 -告訴我們有沒有 Tell us if we screwed up.
我什么都不會說 l'm not talking about it.
我不會說關于赫德曼或任何人的事 l am not talking to you about Haldeman or anybody else.
我也不會再跟你們這些混蛋說話 ln fact, l can't even be seen talking to either one of you bastards.
你在怕什么 誰跟你接觸了嗎 What are you afraid of? Who got to you?
我們被設計了嗎 Are we being set up?
-是嗎 告訴他 -我們被設計了嗎 -Are we, Joe? Tell us! -Are we being set up?
-告訴我們 我們不會說的 -干 -Just tell us, we won't print it. -Fuck you. And fuck you!
我發誓 我只是照著本子上的紀錄寫 Honest to God, l just don't know. -Oh, l see. -lt's in the notes!
好 有另外一通電話 Yeah, we had another call on a long list and
我有電話 得掛掉了 l've got another call, l've gotta go.
你說是鮑伯赫德曼嗎 對 鮑伯 -Did you mean Bob Haldeman? -Yeah, Bob Haldeman.
天啊 我們到底哪里出了錯 Jesus, what was our mistake?
搞不好我們沒有出錯 Maybe there was no mistake.
那他們只是想陷害我們 Then they're just setting us up.
所以這整件事都是樁設計好的騙局 Then the whole thing was a set-up?
他們把我們害慘了 And they just hung us.
越來越多的譴責 你得發表聲明 班 More denunciations. You'll have to make a statement, Ben.
有一個參議員在20分鐘的演說內 罵了我們57次 One senator just gave a speech slurring us 57 times in 20 minutes.
我知道我們有敵人 可是沒想到我們樹敵這么多 l knew we had enemies, but l didn't know we were this popular.
哇 看看這個 Wow, look at this.
這是我非否認的否認 My non-denial denial.
我們堅信自己的報導 布雷迪
該死 相信我們自己人吧 Fuck it, let's stand by the boys.
好 國際版 Okay. Foreign?
好 這是標題 All right, here's our headline.
河內廣播電臺報導 北越跟美國達成 Radio Hanoi reports the United States-North Vietnam agreement...
越戰條約的協議 for a settlement of the Vietnam War.
伍華德 你發現了什么 他怎么說 Woodward, what did you find out? What'd he say?
-幾點了 -你睡著啦 What time is it? -You fell asleep?
該死 -God damn it!
這里 Over here.
-你就這樣放了赫德曼一馬 -對 You let Haldeman slip away.
你做的比放了他還糟 Yes. You've done worse than let Haldeman slip away.
你讓大眾同情他 我真是不敢相信 You've got people feeling sorry for him. l didn't think that was possible.
像這種官官相護 你該在外圍慢慢營造 ln a conspiracy like this...
一步一步接近目標 you build from the outer edges and you go step by step.
如果你的目標設的很高 lf you shoot too high and miss,
卻沒打中 大家是會覺得更安全 everybody feels more secure.
-你們把調查壓了好幾個月 -對 我們知道 -You put the investigation back months. -Yes, we know that.
如果我們錯了 我們會辭職 And if we're wrong, we're resigning.
問題是我們有錯嗎 Were we wrong?
-你們得自己找出答案 不是嗎 -我已經厭倦 You'll have to find that out, won't you?
你這種不斷放空話的游戲 Listen, l'm tired of your chicken-shit games!
我不要暗示 l don't want hints.
我必須知道你知道的事情 l need to know what you know.
一切都是赫德曼主導的 lt was a Haldeman operation.
整件事情是由赫德曼操控 The whole business was run by Haldeman,
包括金錢跟其他部分 the money, everything.
要抓到他的把柄很難 他已經被隔絕起來 lt won't be easy getting at him. He was insulated.
你們得找到方法 You'll have to find out how.
米契爾趕在所有人之前 就開始做掩飾的工作 Mitchell started doing covert stuff before anyone else.
那份名單比任何人想像的要長得多 The list is longer than anyone can imagine.
整個美國情報系統都牽涉其中 lt involves the entire U.S. intelligence community...
聯邦調查局 FBl...
中情局 司法部 ClA, Justice.
非常的驚人 lt's incredible.
官官相護跟水門案 沒有直接關系 The cover-up had little to do with Watergate.
主要其實是要保護 所執行的掩護工作 lt was mainly to protect the covert operations.
牽連的范圍非常廣大 lt leads everywhere.
拿出你的筆記本 我還有更多資訊 Get out your notebook. There's more.
你們的生命已經受到威脅了 Your lives are in danger.
嗨 我終于跟史隆通了電話 Hi, l finally got Sloan on the phone.
深喉嚨說我們的生命 可能有危險
監視竊聽器
我跟史隆談過了 聽到我們想要的事情
他說他準備要向大陪審團 供出赫德曼
他本來要把責任歸到赫德曼身上
可是沒人問他赫德曼的事情
為什么你不在電話中告訴我 Why the hell didn't you tell me over the phone?
他說講電話不安全 Woodward says phones aren't safe.
-我們不能相信 -進來 -Can't trust them. -Come on in.
-我們不能進去 先生 -他說里面有電子監視器 -We can't come in, sir. Woodward says there's electronic surveillance.
-監視器 誰弄的 -已經裝好了 -Surveillance? Who's doing it? -lt's being done.
人們的生命陷入危險 連我們的生命可能都有危險 People's lives are in danger. Maybe even ours.
司法部的消息來源呢 What happened to that Justice source of yours?
我想是我把指示搞得太復雜 l guess l made the instructions too complicated.
他以為我說掛掉 我的意思是別掛掉 Because he thought l said "hang up" when l just said "hang on."
-喔 天啊 -報導是正確的 -Oh, Jesus! -The story is right.
赫德曼是第五個掌控基金的人 Haldeman was the fifth name to control that fund...
-史隆打算要告訴大陪審團的 -他想供出他 -and Sloan would've told the Grand Jury. -Sloan wanted to tell the Jury.
-他為什么沒說 -因為沒人問他 -Why didn't he? -Because nobody asked.
-沒人問他 -整件官官相護事件一定跟竊案有關 Nobody asked him. The cover-up had little to do with the break-in.
都是為了保護掩飾的執行工作 lt was to protect covert operations and the covert activities...
還有牽涉在內的美國情報單位 involving the entire U.S. intelligence community.
深喉嚨有說 Did Deep Throat say
-有人的生命陷入危險嗎 -對 that people's lives are in danger?Yes.
他還說了什么 -What else did he say?
他說所有人都牽涉在內 -He said everyone is involved.
最新的蓋洛普民調結果出爐 You know the results of the latest Gallup Poll?
全國一半民眾沒聽過水門案 Half the country never even heard of the word "Watergate."
沒人在乎 Nobody gives a shit.
你們大概很累了吧 You guys are probably pretty tired, right?
這是理所當然的 回家吧 You should be. Go on home.
好好洗個澡 休息個15分鐘 Get a nice hot bath, rest up 15 minutes...
然后準備再上陣 then get your asses back in gear.
我們承受很多壓力 We're under a lot of pressure,
你知道的 是你讓我們承受這些的 you know, and you put us there.
沒有什么在這之上 Nothing's riding on this
除了憲法的第一修正案 except the First Amendment of the Constitution...
保障新聞自由 可能也因此保障了美國的未來 freedom of the press, and maybe the future of the country.
順道一提 Not that any of that matters...
如果你們這次再搞砸 我可是會抓狂的 but if you guys fuck up again, l'm going to get mad.
晚安 Goodnight.
全國同胞 以及首席大法官 And now, fellow Americans...
將會見證 the Honorable Chief Justice will administer the oath of office...
美國總統的宣誓 to the President of the United States of America.
首席大法官 Mr. Chief Justice.
總統先生 你準備好宣誓了嗎 Mr. President, are you ready to take the constitutional oath?
請將左手放在圣經上 lf you will place your left hand on the Bible and raise your right hand...
同時將右手舉起跟著我念 and please repeat after me.
我 理察尼克森 在此正式宣示 'l, Richard Nixon, do solemnly swear...
我將忠實行使 '...that l will faithfully execute the office of
美國總統的責任 President of the United States...
我將忠實行使 '...that l will faithfully execute the office
美國總統的責任 of President of the United States...
而且將盡我所能 -'...and will, to the best of my ability...
維持 保護 捍衛美國憲法 '...preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States...
維持 保護 捍衛美國憲法 'preserve and protect and defend the Constitution of the United States...
愿神保佑 -'...so help me, God. '
《華盛頓郵報》 1973年一月十一日
杭特承認官官相護 及竊盜等三項罪狀
1973年八月十七日 華盛頓
麥古德承認 協助策劃水門案的罪行
1973年十一月五日 華盛頓
席格提判刑入獄六個月
1974年二月二十六日 華盛頓
康巴哈承認違法籌募白宮基金
1974年四月六日 華盛頓
夏寶因對大陪審團說謊被判有罪
1974年四月十二日 華盛頓
波特對聯邦調查局說謊 被判入獄三十天
1974年五月十七日 華盛頓
前任司法部長 克萊丹斯特進入認罪程序
1975年三月十三日 華盛頓
卡爾森認罪 承認妨礙正義
1975年三月十三日 華盛頓
史丹思認罪 坦承涉入違法募款
1975年一月二日 華盛頓
米契爾 赫德曼 艾利齊曼鞱
主導水門案被判有罪
1974年八月六日 華盛頓
錄音帶顯示 尼克森同意官官相護
總統表示他不會辭職
1974年八月九日 華盛頓
尼克森辭職下臺
杰若德福特于今天中午 成為第三十八屆美國總統